OlgaAbi @ OlgaAbi @lemmy.ml

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just look at rome, or any other empire for that matter, didn't last for ever, I was talking about the history of humanity, not a few lifetimes

no state at all, I'm a libertarian socialist

that's why unregulated capitalism (like in amcapistan or a minarchy) would be better, unions would actually be as powerfull as corporations

I mean china is an authoritarian state, that kinda thing never works for long

I think they're reffering to the extremely authoritarian elements

uhm nope it isn't, in fact a lot of economists are against the state (eg: ludwig van mises)

also everything is bad when state backed imo, even communism

or as I tend to say:"I like my communism the same way I like my toilet: without the state watching over it"

So, what you're actually saying you'd rather live under capitalism because it's not impacting your freedom

that's wrong, I belive that I have more freedom in (unregulated) capitalism that's not state backed, than in a one party system without democratic principles

and you don't care about others.

that's not true, I want others to be as free as I am

Meanwhile, claiming that western Germany was economically stronger than the USSR is another example of you being divorced from reality.

you're literally making this up, I sayed that western germany was ALMOST as economicaly strong as the entire ussr, which is true

It's the same sort of logic people applied to modern Russia comparing its GDP to Italy. Now, it turns out Russian industrial production is higher than all of the west combined.

first source I found: https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Russia/United-States/Industry

this says something completely different

This is how capitalism rots people brains, they start thinking imaginary numbers are more important than material reality.

so at first: you were wrong, but you also were double wrong, because even if russia did produce more than the US there's still the question of what to be made and for whom, russia probably produces more war assets rn, and that isn't necessarily a good thing, since they now can produce less of stuff the people actually need (that statement itself wouldn't be true if the russian economy was growing and they were exporting their war assets, but the opposite is the case, they produce the war assets to burn them on the battlefield and their economy also isn't looking good)

here, read the chapter criticism and tell me everything I'm wrong about https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-African_relations

ok, why did I expect an actual argunent?

Let's imagine China arming and supporting Mexico's opposition parties that align with China.

if that happend I'd support mexico in it's efforts to ally itself with china (if that's what the mexican people want)

U.S would go into a fit and invade Mexico instantly. Same has been happening in Ukraine for a decade before the war started.

you're just proving my point here, Russia is just as bad as the US

You need to also take in account that Russia has been invaded countless times from western powers.

russia in it's current form hasn't been invaded, except if you count ukraine, but russia invaded ukraine first

Russia's geography is also mostly flat plains, making it easy to invade Moscow from the west. Historical context need to be taken to account.

so I can shoot someone because they have an advantage and COULD hurt me?

how's that a cope? I'm against the US and china

lol, china does the same imperialist shit in africa that the west does

and for what belive have you been banned there?

no, I know what a vanguard party is and that I don't support it, now we're arguing about why I don't support it

oh, yes I belive it is, why else is russia invading ukraine?

if I had to choose I'd rather end all hirarchy

no, I just think that freedom is more important than defeating capitalism

I'd rather take my hrt, guns and free speech over a vanguard, sorry

also see how it has worked in russia, how the soviet union has defeated capitalism and how capitalist western germany was almost economically stronger than the entire ussr (including eastern germany)

I actually belive the state in its current form to be a tool of economical, personal and class opression

and I belive no state can exist without at least 2 of the above, but I want none of the above

so you are not a vanguardist?

or am I wrong about vanguardism being bad?

please elaborate