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The struggle is real. Although in my experience I would say that doing vegan activism generally is "activism on easy mode" compared to communist agitation.

If you start the conversations off the right way and with context that gets people to think about animals, whether it's a video, VR experience, information about the animal agriculture industry, etc. it's a very straightforward A --> B for a lot of people. If you think animal abuse is bad --> don't support animal abuse.

Of course there is the background of misconceptions about everything from health and nutrition, sustainability concerns (somehow), believing it's more expensive to be vegan, thinking there must be a "right" way to murder an animal, etc. But in my outreach conversations I make a conscious effort to not argue with people.

The main goal is to get them to express their empathy for animals and confront the contradictions in their actions and values. Once they understand this, understand what veganism actually is and that it's not a diet, it becomes much easier for them to address the information part as they're already motivated by the "why". From that point I don't spoonfeed them information or argue with them, I just give them resources that they can look into on their own time.

Maybe for me it's also a difference in experience because I haven't had that many conversations regarding communism with many people. I feel that it's impossibly hard. For veganism, all I needed to realise was this one contradiction regarding animal exploitation and abuse, and just inform myself mostly about diet stuff. For communism, it's a process that took years, a lot of reading, a lot of correcting misconceptions about communism itself, a lot of history, a very large change in worldview, even though I would've described myself as an "anti-capitalist" for a long time before that.

I think I read this sentiment before somewhere. May I ask why?

When are we getting the ProleWiki podcast where twice a month @CriticalResist8 along with different contributors and editors talk about everything ProleWiki from updates, news, challenges, the "On this day..." event etc. with a section at the end of each episode highlighting some of the goofiest edit attempts in ProleWiki history?

Of course, there would also be a Q&A section to plug the Patreon/Liberapay, as only patrons would be able to submit questions. They'll also get exclusive access to a compilation of bloopers from the last 2 episodes every month.

And it goes without saying that once a month there will be a special episode with a section where @CriticalResist8 invites esteemed guests from Lemmygrad to discuss the featured article and essay on the ProleWiki homepage from that day.

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Blowback.

Campfires, slowly crackling

Wow, thanks for all the insight! I think in general this is a very good mentality to have, and to pause and really reflect on it before even picking up the pencil as you say.

The focus on actionability is interesting though. Would you not say that some forms of propaganda aren't necessarily meant to spur action per se, but rather serve as an opener or starter? Maybe I'm not wording this correctly, but it would follow the same concept as the Funnel model. Some forms of media would have large appeal and only serve to push people further down the funnel to be more receptive to other forms of media or propaganda. Or would you consider this a non-effective path that is akin to the sign-holding you mentioned? Or perhaps I am misanalysing this concept.

With the example you gave, the goal is very clear and it's quite straightforward to break down. I wonder if you have any more examples that are perhaps a bit more modern as well.

What are the main do's and don'ts of designing effective propaganda?

Putting Genocide Joe in scare quotes. Libs are going fully mask-off in this thread.

Perhaps on foreign policy, but other than that you have the hardline anti-immigration stance in addition to socially conservative policies and subtle yet no-so-subtle climate denialism.

I don't know what to make of this election. I'm hoping more German members here expand on this.

Homelessness.

I've re-read this comment three times and can't get over "Morocco, Africa". I've never seen a country referred to like this in my life.