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  • He could pander to his base with all of this, but he can't really do any of it (except the NATO and Russia parts but those have nothing to do with Palestine). That's what I was talking about; Trump would be spouting genocidal rhetoric but there's very little he can actually do that Biden hasn't already.

  • no, Israel did not bomb Gaza until their retaliation to Hamas breaking the ceasefire with their terrorist attack on the morning of October 7th.

    You know people can tell when you lie, right? Israel has never stopped bombing Gaza due to a ceasefire. Not in 2008, not in 2013, and sure as hell not in 2022 or 2023. Also the 2023 ceasefire was, as I said, between Israel and the PIJ, not Hamas.

    the blockade was not even mentioned in the ceasefire and I have no idea why you would think it was.

    It's not. Therefore it's a return to the status quo ante bellum, not a ceasefire. Because the blockade is an act of war.

  • Everyone says it's geopolitics as if genocide hasn't historically impacted geopolitics. Germany's genocidal policies worsened US relations with them during and before both world wars, arguably leading to US intervention. Same with US-Japan relations before WWII. NATO intervened in Kosovo because of crimes against humanity.

    "It's geopolitics" doesn't make politicians not guilty of supporting crimes against humanity.

  • And did Israel stop bombing Gazans during that ceasefire? Did they lift the blockade? (Hint: The answer is no) If no it's worthless. That's why I said these "ceasefires" are returns to the status quo ante bellum.

  • Literally yes. Israel's Apartheid is inherently unsustainable and has been surviving using international support (mainly from the US and UK in recent years). Take away the biggest pillar and the whole thing will collapse. Maybe by, say, not vetoing UN resolutions or sending Israel aircraft carriers.

  • You do realize that all ceasefires between Palestinian resistance (not Hamas because the one you're thinking of was with PIJ) and Israel are just return to the status quo ante bellum? Both Israel and the other party agree to just do things as usual for the time being. Gazans sure as hell were being bombed before October 7th.

  • can easily see arguments that this situation is not applicable here. Israel stated goal is security, return of the hostages and Hamas destruction.

    Who cares about their stated goals? Judge by their actions, and their actions are:

    An artificially induced famine, with a quarter of the population suffering from acute food shortage.

    Rape, torture and kidnapping (and of course wanton murder) of Gazans in the territories they've managed to capture.

    Murder of at least more than 1% of the population. More likely much more because the hospitals who are supposed to count dead people aren't functioning anymore, and there are still people buried under rubble.

    Etc etc.

    And then they've stated that they'll make fucking "deradicalization camps". This is official Israeli policy coming from the mouth of Netanyahu himself. Total victory is sounding awfully close to a final solution now.

  • Just gonna say: Hamas's official policy is that a two-state solution would be enough as accomplishment of their goals. That aside, even if Hamas goes away someone worse will take their place. To steal a random quote from the internet: The next generation of Palestinian terrorists/freedom fighters will think and do things that will make ISIS look like peace-loving hippies.

  • The State Department said Friday that Secretary of State Antony Blinken had told Congress that he had made a second emergency determination covering a $147.5 million sale for equipment, including fuses, chargers and primers, that is needed to make the 155 mm shells that Israel has already purchased function.