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I can understand it but treating the hostages as merely bargaining chips ignores that they are innocent civilians caught in this idiotic conflict through no fault of their own. Hamas has no right to use the hostages as a tool to protect themselves.

They have the right to use the hostages to protect Gazans. Don't blame the player, blame the game.

I mean, if they genuinely cared or thought this was a genocide, why are they now defending China and Russia blocking an immediate ceasefire that would at least temporarily stop Palestinian suffering?

Because freeing the hostages for a 6-week ceasefire would be effectively approving Israel's planned attack of Rafah. They literally say that. There's a reason Hamas has been rejecting this same deal over and over again.

That's some massive copium. Not that I'm a fan of China or Russia, but there's a reason Hamas has been rejecting temporary ceasefires.

"Accused" bruh it's been confirmed for ages.

They are exasperated that we use computer mice.

What?

Molasses holocaust

This way of putting it is actually genius.

They don't, haven't since 1967. But that doesn't faze Israel because there are no real consequences.

Adding to what the other guy said, I'm theorizing but it could be because they want Netanyahu to fail. Israel wants Republicans in office so they can stop pretending to pretend to follow international law.

And then people wonder why people like Snowden stay in Russia.

Very much yes. The US's proposal was actually worse than nothing. There's a reason Hamas has been demanding a permanent ceasefire before they turn over any more hostages. There's also a reason Algeria voted no.

I think y'all are missing the elephant in the room here. This is a resolution that demands Hamas hand over all their hostages for a temporary ceasefire, with no mention of the 3000+ hostages Israel still holds.

My issue is that technically the only reason their bombing is because of the hostages and perhaps if they release the hostages peace talks can begin.

This might work somewhere else, but not with Israel. Hamas isn't good, but they're for better or worse one of the organizations with the most experience at negotiating with Israel and getting actual results (small as they may be). And Hamas knows there's no way in hell Israel would just quietly leave after being handed over all the Palestinian side's leverage when they've been very clear they want to re"settle" Gaza and rule it like (or worse than) they rule the West Bank.

BTW I'm relying on reporting so if anyone can find the whole thing please link it.

An immediate temporary ceasefire.

He sanctioned... three settlers and two outposts. A very very tiny step in the right direction, but not the flex you think it is.

Though ig two superpowers militarily supporting opposide sides has the risk of just turning the place into a warzone like what happened with Afghanistan.

Honestly a warzone is better that what's happening now.

Where's the ceasefire in this?

Oh I see it was a temporary "ceasefire". Thank God Russia and China are on the council, even though they do have their own (very big) issues.

It's a recon drone that locates the target and observes the result of the strike.

I'm not sure what Islam has to do with a Jewish settler colony, but go on I guess.

Honestly no. Bad representation is worse than no representation. This is an extreme example, but just look at Muslim representation in Western media. I mean just take the extremist terrorist Muslim, or the idea that Muslim women are oppressed and need to be "liberated" from their hijab.

Again this is an extreme example but this is what bad representation is; it reduces a group of people into a few stereotypical character traits. As a Muslim I'd rather Islam not be represented at all if this is what that representation will be.

Plus there is still an issue of Hamas.

Say what you want about Hamas but they're much better than the IDF.