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  • I have no moral problem eating a human or nonhuman if they’re already dead. Kinda weird but whatever. The issue comes when you are the one who took their life from them without consent.

    But...then wouldn't the activism be directed solely at slaughterhouse workers? Who..obviously won't listen, given they chose to work there, and the only one of them I ever knew still has a special hatred for chickens decades later?

    I'm not the one killing anything. Only thing I've ever killed is bugs, and I stopped enjoying that when I hit ten. I still inarguably fund the ones who do. Those who hunt by themselves and do kill tend very much to be poor enough to make hunting a welcome option, which I wouldn't take issue with until they have others available.

    This ideally has to range beyond the killing part if it's to reach literally anyone whose financial situation does not depend upon continuing to kill things.

    As for other people telling me they think I'm terrible, I get that all the time already, whether I've actually done anything or not. If you're on the internet, stuff like that becomes noise. I don't like me either.

  • See, that's what I'm talking about. I'm saving that :D

    I've never heard of sambal in my life, much less gochujang, but I guess we're going on an adventure.

  • "It's only Monday, Mr. Mom"? Yeah, that was probably back when I was in middle school. It was a super popular song on our preferred station in the morning. Have not heard it since. Still remember half the chorus.

    I would like to point out that forcing prisoners to listen to a single song over and over for hours is a form of torture used by the CIA. And also commiserate, because that same boss forbade anyone touching the radio whether she was there or not on pain of termination. She really, really liked country.

    For a breather (this was before I worked there), she brought in her very own CD to play over the holidays instead of relying on the stations, I guess because they possibly didn't have an xmas lineup? This was acceptable on paper, but then she left for the day, the tape got stuck on The Little Drummer Boy, and nobody was allowed to touch it.

    The coworker telling me this attested to having listened to The Little Drummer Boy 27 times in a row, on the edge of derangement. This is ok to do to a person, because they are a US retail worker and not a terrorist.

  • I love this so much, I audibly gasped. The one and only downside is how much of an asshole I'd feel being forced to scrub the "graffiti" off for work

  • Which would be way funnier if Meta's terms of service didn't purposefully include third party users in their collection:

    Information From Third Party Services and Users:

    We collect information about the Third Party Services and Third Party Users who interact with Threads. If you interact with Threads through a Third Party Service (such as by following Threads users, interacting with Threads content, or by allowing Threads users to follow you or interact with your content), we collect information about your third-party account and profile (such as your username, profile picture, IP address, and the name of the Third Party Service on which you are registered), your content (such as when you allow Threads users to follow, like, reshare, or have mentions in your posts), and your interactions (such as when you follow, like, reshare, or have mentions in Threads posts).

    i.e., if I remain as literate as I think I am, it seems to me that the only ways for users on the fediverse to avoid giving over everything and the kitchen sink to the clutches of the dubiously human overlord are to:

    1. Defederate any and all Threads instances forever, no take backs.

    2. Not have a fediverse account.

  • Ok, but. I would still eat a dead human pretty readily if they didn't taste like veal, so. Not to mention, my overly-literal ass can confirm from everything I know of every area of medicine and mechanics, we definitely are meat robots, yes. The distance as a consumer helps, but if I had to kill something myself, all it would take is getting hungry enough. An empty stomach knows no morality.

    I think you're underestimating how little emphasis most really place on this over making their own survival as simple as possible. Myself and others are not unaware that dying is painful or we'd likely be kept in a room somewhere, and acting otherwise is infantilzing.

    Deriving enjoyment from being talked down to is so far from the norm it's a distinct fetish, so it rarely accomplishes more than making the target dig in their heels. It's by far the main reason that every time a vegetarian/vegan is at all vocal, they tend to get laughed out of the room.

    Unless they're six, people already know animals suffer and they eat them anyway. It's just what they've always done, they already know it's available and delicious, and it's easier not to change anything more than they absolutely have to.

    So make the change simple. The empathy route isn't playing to strengths, here, the way just getting someone to try and hopefully integrate vegetarian meals would.

    Horrendous? Yes. Also true. Mostly what people do is suck. If you want someone to do something for you, make it worth their while.

  • the dead bodies of sentient beings

    Some thoughts — the appeal to emotion is always going to be a turnoff here. Every time. I do get it, but if the people you were trying to convince cared about how fluffy and sad their food was, they would already be vegetarian.

    Also, don't think I won't eat a human just because they're sentient. Or an ostrich. Have you ever met an ostrich? They're unapologetic dickheads. I'll eat an ostrich's babies on purpose. So mostly it qualifies as a guilt trip that goes nowhere, especially for those who hunt animals that need frequent culling like deer.

    I think just trying to convince people to try recipes is more likely to hit, because who doesn't want something new and inexpensive that they don't have to feel fat about?

    On that note, thank you for the reminder that I do really need to try tofu. I keep meaning to and forgetting, was not aware til last year how much protein it actually has (plants have a terrible rep), and I'm just gonna plan a dish at random and set a whole reminder for myself at this point. This is ridiculous. Would there be anything off the top of your head that's your favorite?

  • I had an ex whose mom used to do that to him with Sprite. Drove me crazy. I wonder if your experiences are both due to a misunderstanding about sodas in general. In truth, eating ginger settles your stomach, so sipping ginger ale actually is a valid treatment for stomach upset. It's why it's so popular on planes.

    They may have experienced this themselves and assumed it was the carbonation component that helped, so now they're using stuff like pepsi as a medicine.

    @EthanolParty

  • Could you explain? Is it just the kinds of people who are attracted to those jobs generally making it insufferable?

  • Yes? Although I should back up and say that for retail, those are holiday hours. My normal hours were like....16 per week, tops, and that's all that was available in the area. Because as long as my total hours per week are kept just barely under 40, I don't get to have healthcare!

    ....So we just played russian roulette with the bills and I had to quit when the stress combined with simply not eating began to impact my health at work. Being unemployed did not improve the situation.

    I don't know if you're aware that full-time often goes to 60-80hrs+ per week, but that works out to about the same. I've only very recently persuaded a roommate to stop pulling all-nighters on a salary. They were literally going all last week surviving on naps, but eventually admitted that they almost never actually hit the cash bonuses they were aiming for having dangled in front of them anyway. So hopefully I can keep them to that.

    These are extremely common tactics, as is any job from a temp service having an employment policy that resembles a revolving door, wherein no matter how hard you go, they are going to fire you just shy of a month or two, after which they would have legally had to hire you and give you super gross things like benefits.

    By the time the French revolted, their peasants were eating grass to survive. Most of us are still at least eating food for humans. We're probably going to ride this to collapse.

  • I can't help myself. Are you going to add in a comma after "posted," then?

  • Making/laughing at jokes surrounding events like 9/11 and the titanic. Out of morbid curiosity, I know far too much about either of them now, they are no longer statistics, and contemplating both genuinely turns my stomach.

    There is at least one pretty graphic recording of a phone call from a 9/11 victim trapped on the higher floors, the operator kept trying to reassure her, and it was obvious she knew they were lying. I can't anymore. I've deliberately traumatized myself listening to it, and I've lost my taste for that shit.

    But, you know. "If we don't crack jokes, it gets too heavy." Ha-ha, holocaust /s

  • Christmas carols. Being forced to come back to a retail job over the Christmas rush a little over a week after my brother was found dead on the floor outside my bedroom :)

    The boss there had a very personal bone to pick with me, made it clear she didn't even have to give me any bereavement leave since I was part time, and when a customer went on a Mach 4 tirade because I wasn't smiling hard enough (not kidding), she backed them up and threatened to fire me in front of everyone.

    12hrs+ of this every day. I preferred working by myself in back because people would leave me the fuck alone to do my job, but it turns out it was also useful for intermittent off-camera crying!

    To this day, 13 years later, I can still tell you the exact playlist that was on the radio. That was when The Fray's How to Save a Life was still big and I used to really like that song, but I can avoid it now a lot easier than I can avoid "I'll Be Home for Christmas."

    It got me forcibly stopped by the police once, when I couldn't take it anymore, ran out of the store, and the owner assumed I stole something. I really just don't leave the house after October.

  • Pity we went with a bird as the unofficial kbin mascot instead of a fish, then, since we already have our rat

  • The last meme I see literally as I am about to go lay down. Perfect.

  • I have an uneasy feeling this guy was not even there to shop. He seems....invested.
    "Hypnotically caucasian" is going to stick with me for a while

  • From an outsider's view, I'd think they're close. What I wanna know is how Kirby has more lore than My Little Pony. He's a blob with a one-word vocabulary.

  • It makes sense, but it's more than a little depressing and I would have thought the features wouldn't really be much of an issue for someone who chose that platform. Someone on Twitter might be aware that Reddit exists and how it works, but they're still not very likely to uproot themselves from a platform they know and use just for that (current events notwithstanding).

    Can I ask what kind of service Hubzilla is, that puts it above the other options? Especially for nerds? I've heard the name maybe three times now, but I know nothing else. Is it just the fact that they're not tied down?

  • For me, I had my own reasons that were similar to Nougat's. Sensible, non-eye-burning interface. A frankly surprising admiration for what I'd seen of what would become my dev's personality and approach, where I hadn't felt anything but veiled contempt for an admin in decades. I didn't know about the other perks (individually muting instances, neat community tagging system, 70% compatibility with mastodon) until later, but those make me even more satisfied with my choice and I'm content to wait out the small stuff.

    For inquisitive people, I'm not overly certain beyond what I've said. It could have been a fluke. It could be that, since lemmy was the first choice anyone ever mentioned, shitposters are just looking for the easiest way to have a good time. So lemmy got all the shitposters. And if you weren't interested in what lemmy had to offer, there was a very good chance you weren't interested in where the fediverse currently was in general, in order to bother reading through all the other options. A lot of people decided they didn't like how janky and different it felt and they just went elsewhere.

    I could be overly-projecting, but people who kept looking long enough to stumble across kbin instead of choosing lemmy or giving up I think would tend to be the more anxious, detail-oriented types that are liable to do their homework before making anything approaching a decision. Which would...inherently make them more likely to be hungrier for that kind of thing in general? Which naturally meshes pretty well with the aforementioned nerdiness of those who were already here when we arrived.

    I really don't want to make assumptions, though, or end up implying things like "Lol, lemmy got all the lazy chodes and we got the smart people." Especially between such closely-linked communities that started out as quite literally the same group. Expecting such a clear delineation would be a bit laughable, and we'll blend with each other like we always have. I have no interest in tribalism, I'm just enjoying the time period this platform is troll-less.

  • Well, I'm..american, so I'm generally too broke to leave my house. I will openly admit I'm increasingly jealous of the French tendency to fuck shit up at the slightest inconvenience. They seem to know a lot more about getting things done.

    I think one would also have to account for geography in that, no? If a country were landlocked and surrounded by a ton of others that all used the same separate system that they themselves do not, then there would be very significant reason and pressure to change. As much as it's derided for it, America IS very much a universe unto itself, and the only dealings it has with nations that do things differently are in areas of work that have switched over to more standard measurements.

    All science and engineering are primarily or totally done in metric after we crashed the Mars Orbiter headlong into the dirt at mach speed. Everything else tends to use the more mathmatically sensible kelvin. Mexico uses metric and celsius, but I've literally never had a reason to go to mexico and probably never will. Canada uses both, but same deal.

    I make a concerted effort to include both systems whenever I have to type for an audience of mixed/ambiguous nationality, but in my day-to-day, I will never meet another person who can easily switch between them and I have no use to do that either. It is a useless skill for me to have. Despite this, I have the sense that I see more europeans complaining about farenheit than I ever see Americans complain about celsius existing, and for such a damn stupid populace, I'm left to assume we either comment less or google it more.

    Regarding projecting, I could be tongue-in-cheek and ask if you've ever met a European before. Our food. Our language. Our buildings, cities, cars, media, sports, slang, holidays, garbage disposals, windows, classrooms, whether or not we take our shoes off in the house. I struggle to think of a single subject you guys will not routinely make an inordinate amount of fuss over, as if it killed your children, and I'm convinced at this point that it's for love of spite and there's literally nothing we could do to make Europe happy if we wanted to. It makes sense that any chance to acknowledge the alternate measuring system would be prime ribs.

    Brits especially will snark about american english that routinely turns out to be a defunct british word. Germans will complain about the drywall, but their own houses have the same drywall. Houses in Switzerland are made of wood, but nobody bitches at the Swiss.

    Parting note, the downvote feels in keeping with that kind of pettiness.