Eating meat creates four times more greenhouse gases than being vegan, landmark study finds
Nepenthe @ Nepenthe @kbin.social Posts 1Comments 505Joined 2 yr. ago
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Lol @ the expected proliferation of fuck spez. I already broke up with my ex, though, and I didn't even need ice cream. Egging their house feels unnecessary
Sorry, I wasn't as clear. I'd meant the jokes told about the future back then were better than how the actual future turned out. The jokes from then were mostly slurs tbh
The jokes were less stupid
• If I stop paying taxes, they won't remove me from the country, for starters. If I steal enough from them, they may make double-sure I remain a customer for the next several years.
• If I make little to nothing and can't afford a subscription taxes, they pay me.
• Their free version works pretty much just like their paid version. People who pay wish they didn't and people who don't would kill for the opportunity.
• Not everyone gets the same experience, even among people in the same bracket. (Alabama roads)
• The government doesn't mind if I share my citizenship, as long as I say I really like that person.
• Even if they're not supposed to be using the service country, extra sneaky ones still pay taxes, sometimes in the hopes of being legally permitted to continue paying.
Haven't seen this since I was a kid and I can still hear it
Not on Lemmy, so I've just consented to wave sadly as my old love passes me by. It was a fantastic app and will continue to be. Kbin's waiting on Artemis, and until then I'm surprisingly satisfied. I do appreciate it, though!
Ah, reddit comment bots. Now with...Boomhauer?
For nobody wondering, I'm gonna go with lolno. Moving away from reddit means I'm moving away from reddit, not screaming profanities on their front lawn at 3am like a drunken ex trying to prove how much I don't need them.
I still like reading news about them but I’ve not been back. If I accidentally click on someone’s posted reddit link (happens a lot - trying to retrain!) I back out quick before it loads.
This is the whole reason I still haven't uninstalled Boost. It doesn't work anymore but it's still set to open as my default, so if I ever click by accident, I'm met with a blank screen before I remember.
Probably 3 minutes, tops, in a neutral setting, but every reddit employee and pro-dumbass mod knows that's the first thing anyone is going to do, so they'll be up all night alongside their bots, cheating and shadowbanning like last time. Not that I'm naming names, Chtorr.
No way under god will they allow the kinds of things users are about to depict happening to spez
I can't tell whether we're just pretending for the joke that that's anything like what taxes do, and the possibility that we aren't makes me depressed
Obligatory do not do this, it is an instant spoiled milk spell
Or do it and post about it, I don't care.
Not everything that elicits emotion is an appeal to emotion. If I argue with a conservative and say that “anti-trans legislation leads to more trans suicides of the children you pretend to protect”, is that an appeal to emotion just because the conversative might get emotional?
Yes.
Appeals to emotion are intended to cause the recipient of the information to experience feelings such as fear, pity, or joy, with the end goal of convincing the person that the statements being presented by the fallacious argument are true or false, respectively.
the statement "Look at the suffering children. We must do more for refugees." is fallacious, because the suffering of the children and our emotional perception of the badness of suffering is not relevant to the conclusion.
If you cut out the part where they're a terrible hypocrite if they don't agree, that would be a logical argument instead of an emotional one. For the topic,
"You should switch because it costs less, is more environmentally sustainable, and carries much the same nutrition while being more advantageous to your health" is a logical argument. All of these are verifiable and the reader may decide on their own how persuasive the facts are.
"vegetarianism is cheap and healthy, you should switch because killing is wrong and you're making poor, defenseless animals suffer and be repeatedly raped, and you're a terrible person behaving immorally," is a emotional argument, and laughably manipulative.
The problem is morals are subjective. You might think stomping bugs is mean. I might stomp all day. We can argue about bugs all day long and never get anywhere, because you're trying to force me to feel something I don't actually believe. I'm more likely to listen to data I can't physically argue with.
Now, regarding effectiveness, I don’t know what’s better. All I know is that the people that aren’t activist always seem to know exactly how to do activism correctly. . . . Veganism is not a diet, so just giving recipes without a philosophical backing will likely not create a lifelong lifestyle shift.
The philosophy part seems to fall short a lot those reasons. Most meat-eaters are well aware, they just value something else more. Be that finances/accessibility (hunters), self-image (Red-blooded American Tradition, Grrr, Manly Caveman), or simplicity/dependability and the transient comfort of familiarity (me @ the horrors of life).
If you're like me and giving more energy to struggling, your instinct might be to go, "Ooh, animals are suffering? Food is sad? Mfer I'm sad too, I can't even afford laundry."
With their values elsewhere, the likelihood any will go Full Plant forever is small at best. But if I continue eating eggs/steak and replace burgers and chicken with their just-as-good meatless counterparts, I still consider it a partial win vs a total loss. More open to the idea. Less money to the industry.
It has to be far and beyond exhausting to have the people you're convincing correct your speech instead of ever focusing on the content. I grant you that.
I'm not pulling it out of my ass because I want The Activists to leave me alone, it's my stance because years of perceived bitching never swayed me any more than it seems to persuade anyone else in this thread. Being nagged and told you're a bad person isn't going to make most people want to hear about all the ways they're bad.
What got me to consider it was a former friend who never pushed the issue except to offer me some of her plate. It was fucking delicious. A bit expensive, still, since that's just where fake meat is right now, but I'd buy it again.
Asking a vegetarian sub about an unidentified dish in a wedding spread didn't net me answers, sadly, but for someone whose main concern is a tendency towards anemia, a user showing me tofu has slightly more (non-heme) iron than meat put it on my radar. Way more fun than the 40% chance of being dogpiled and called a murderer.
I will admit that "on my radar" turned out to be more "info my handicapped brain filed away to be accessed only if I ever saw it in a section I associate with ice cream," so that will be rectified.
Regarding tofu I’d say think of it like plain chicken. It has zero real taste of it’s own, so just put it into stuff that’s tasty. Since it doesn’t have to be cooked for a specific time like chicken or lentils, I often just crumple a bit into whatever I’m making if it’s lacking “mass”.
I've heard that, not surprised. A bit sad, but easy to work around. If there's no set cook time, is there...a disadvantage to cooking it? As in, it's easily burned or something...? Maybe I'm asking too many things. The only cookbook I've ever owned was an heirloom from WWII, so I have some stuff to look up 😅
That was my only guess for those and I felt dead sure there was no way that could be right. They wouldn't make it that easy.
I didn't even notice the mushrooms. I still think I could do it with completely cooked noodles, and my issue with these photos was always how they managed to find such long ones that hadn't broken or run out and required thread noodle changes. But with those needles? Lol.
Universal basic income, basically, yes. Which would ideally revolutionize a lot, so while I'm drooling over the idea in a perfect world, I'm also banking on something about it being horribly twisted before they ever consent to do something close to that. They'd have more money to put back into the economy than they are, but people scrambling in poverty don't have the energy to take an active interest in the doings of the elite.
Their site lists:
For every 50 Champions contributing $200/month each, AFA will hire one more DC advocate!
So $120k per year. Googling the current salary of a DC lobbyist gets me anywhere from $56k - $210K. Should have just done that instead, huh. Getting into political arguments with strangers could have been a paid gig.
trying to find different jobs for those people is an important thing to do, since there’s also a good chance they’d rather not do that if they had better options. For example, iirc ptsd rates are high among slaughterhouse workers.
Which will be difficult since they tend by nature to be the only available work far out in the middle of nowhere. Rural areas are highly resistant to urbanization and in my experience their council members are openly hostile even as their town is visibly breathing its last. I believe you're also right about the PTSD, I'd forgotten about it.
Appreciate the link, I'm..you know. Overall dumb about these things. And also shocked to find the amount they're asking for one single lobbyist — which I think would feel exorbitant to most — is lower midtier for their average salary. I don't really know what I expected.
When I was a kid, I remember seeing an ad in my belovedly ridiculous, now defunct Weekly World News for anti-meteorite bracelets. Maybe I should have gotten one.
I always try really hard to do that, and even more so now that I've left reddit. Now and then, I still find myself backspacing ingrained reddit snark or editing and re-editing things to make them more neutral and concise.
Sadly, the rambling is clinical, I still tend to get in my own way if I'm talking about something personal, and I've found that nothing. Absolutely nothing. Will piss people off faster than telling them to be nice to or even hear each other. I just want things to be better, and in all but the most dire cases, anger doesn't do that.
For the recipe, I already have one saved to my phone :3
Do you remember a source for that info? Or at least suggestions? I'm interested to read into it, but I'm not really sure what to even google for that