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I mentioned the yugoslav wars in the post before that. The argument still stands, Europe has been mostly peaceful for the first time ever. Do you intend to actually answer any of the points of my post?

There havent been wars in Europe, unlike literally any other period in history, for almost 80 years. Dont you think that is an impressive achievement? An achievement that the invasion of Ukraine has endangered? How would you feel if you were a baltic state like Latvia? A country that has been very prosperous since the end of the Cold War?

What does your rhetoric offer to a latvian? What tangible measures should someone in Latvia take, in order to protect their way of living from someone like Russia? Should they just ignore it and focus on class warfare? What class warfare currently exists within Russia? Or can exist within an authoritarian state like Russia? Do you think Russia is communist? Or wants to become communist?

I am trying to understand, what is your argument. What do you suggest the people of a country do when some other country invades them. Even if you think that countries are obsolete artificial constructs that need to be demolished, you surely understand there is a difference when a leader from another country takes over your country. Do you think Putin is a communist?

Militarism is bad, thats why Europe had a shitty military ever since the end of the Cold War. Because every euro spent on tanks and planes, is a euro that isnt spent on healthcare and education. Europe could finally benefit from the peace dividend.

And then Russia decided one day to walk in and grab parts of Ukraine(Crimea and parts of Donbas). That started some alarms but Europe kept sleepwalking. Surely Putin wont go any further. But just like Hitler who conquered Czechoslovakia(and didnt stop there), Putin decided "why the hell dont i take the entirety of Ukraine, it isnt as if anyone will stop me, those european soycucks dont have the balls to do anything but write stern letters".

And he almost succeeded. So after 3 decades of having basically 0 investment in military, Europe is now rushing to catch up. Because it doesnt matter how peaceful you are, it is basic game theory. If you are military weakened enough, at some point, someone, somewhere will come to power who will want to take advantage of that "weakness".

Class warfare is irrelevant if people are not class conscious enough to stop war from both sides. Ok, i will use my magic wand and make everyone in Europe class conscious. But if russians arent class conscious enough to refuse the orders to invade a country, someone will need to stop them.

Again, imagine using the same arguments against nazi Germany. Imagine pleading german soldiers to not invade you and that class warfare is the real war. Do you think that would work?

Some people only respect power and think words are a sign of weakness.

Thats like having your house on fire and saying "this is fine" meme. Do you think that war is never an option? That giving up and letting invaders take what they want is preferable because it "reduces" human suffering?

Would you advocate the same during WW2 and Germany/Italy's invasions? Should the countries that got invaded not resist and should the UK/US not help those countries? Imagine if you were an american in WW2 and your government was giving hundreds of billions worth of equipment to the russians, in order for Russia to fight the nazis. Would you still say "why are we sending hundreds of billions to the corrupt nation of Russia, when that money could have been used in America instead"?

The isolationist rhetoric benefits the invaders, who can easily take out individual countries(or regions of countries), one piece at a time, while placating the rest.

I think all Xiaomis(sold in Europe) have Google Store. Huawei is the one without Google Store.

So your argument is that since the public in these countries is brainwashed, they arent capable for voting for their leadership, therefore there is no democracy, only the illusion of democracy. Thus an invasion and imposing a new government through violence, maybe one that aligns better with your worldview, is an acceptable thing?

I dont know, i think this is a very slippery slope. I think brainwashed people deserved to be ruled by whoever they vote, thats what democracy is and has always been. Even in ancient Athens, you had demagogues and sophists(even if we ignore that women and slaves couldnt vote). And money could get you a better sophist, to teach you how to debate and manipulate people.

So is democracy a fake system that can never be achieved? And your alternative suggestion is what?

Do people in your country oppose those bases? Do you have democracy? If the majority of people opposed those bases, they could vote for some other government. Do you understand the difference between an invasion and hosting allied troops?

If a country elects a "fascist" government and then gets invaded, do they not deserve help? So i assume you also supported the invasion of Iraq and the toppling of Saddam? They didnt even have democracy there, unlike Ukraine.

True, i dont know the network situation in the US.

Because Lenovo is a chinese company and people think motorola is an american one. Either way, you are better off buying xiaomi/poco but americans are ignorant of these brands(because they are not being sold in the US).

So every time some chinese company like motorola or nothing, markets a phone to America, americans have their minds blown that there are cheaper but good phones available. But in Europe, these phones are available and very popular. Xiaomi is probably more popular than samsung and apple, especially in poorer countries. Even in "western" Europe, xiaomi has 15% market share, samsung 35% and apple 33%.

If you are willing to ignore the fact that xiaomi is a chinese company, they are offering amazing value for money products. Which is why they keep offering more and more products, including cars. And while i cannot speak for their other products, xiaomi/poco phones are great. Especially poco, if you dont care about cameras but care about performance/soc. Poco is a subbrand of xiaomi.

Obviously.

That's 20 billion per year. The EU's alone defense spending for 2023 was 270bil. This is not a lot of money.

If someone invaded your country, would you still have the same opinion? If Trump invaded your country(assuming you are not an american), would you still say "why are we spending billions to fight Trump, when we could have spent them on education and housing?".

Geforce now is amazing. Much better image quality(video stream), on top of running on pc(so better graphics and fps). It is obviously more expensive(and doesnt come with any free games) but you do get what you pay for.

The microsoft cloud is "almost kinda working"/"this is neat" while geforce now "wow, i guess cloud gaming is the future". Now if only nvidia could persuade sony and japanese devs to release their games on geforce now(though dragons dogma 2 was, which was surprising).

I have to note that sometimes, the loading times on geforce now can be long, this is not normal and varies. Sometimes load times are normal, sometimes are fucky. I think geforce now has become more popular lately and this has caused some issues. Also if a game is really cpu dependent(like dragons dogma 2), the geforce now cpus arent that great.

Another issue is that since games often use weird launchers and drm, this can cause issues. But eventually these issues are resolved.

Ok. And this is relevant because?

Except Israel is one of the most secure countries against attacks like this, because they have experienced many attacks like this. And they are doing everything they can do to prevent similar attacks, including using racial profiling and other authoritarian tactics(apartheid).

It is much easier for radical islamists living in Russia, places like Dagestan/Chechnya or living in neighbouring muslim countries, to go to Russia.

Now you might say, why would they attack Russia? Because Russia has been attacking ISIS(and affiliates) in both Syria and Africa. And thats on top of the Chechen wars, Afghanistan invasion or maybe more relevant, the Tajikistani war(since the perpetrators seem to be from Tajikistan).

What you need to understand is that ISIS(ISIS-K) is against everyone. They are against the Taliban in Afghanistan, against Iran, against Pakistan, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_against_the_Islamic_State#Involvement_by_country

Literally every nation on earth(including Russia and China) is listed as actively opposing ISIS.

It is only using latin letters and it is 1 to 1 for the most part. But it isnt defined somewhere, there are different variations for some letters and the Greek alphabet is slightly different than the Latin one.

For example the letter Greek letter "χ"(similar sound to English "h") can be written as "x" or "h". Χ looks like x but sounds like h, so either works.

It is actually a thing, called greeklish. It used to be more common/popular during the earlier days of computing/internet due to limited support of the Greek alphabet. It remained popular even later on and even today but i feel it is getting less popular nowadays.

Google translate supports greeklish, you can select Greek and type greeklish and it will work.

Here it’s a small fine

People will call it a cashgrab, that will mostly affect poor people(since the rich people both vote and also dont care about small fines).

it’s also a day off

Greek elections are always on Sunday and people can be given a day off if their voting location is far away(especially back in the day, when moving your voting location was hard).

Greece is a pretty failed state from what I’ve seen

I have been shitting on Greece for my entire life, but it aint cool when non greeks do it. Yes, Greece is fucked but i wouldnt really call it a failed state. It is a shithole but only greeks get to call it a shithole. It also relatively shitholey, in comparison to western european countries.

It just happens to be the worst "western" country. And yes, it is in the East, but the West/East thing was a Cold War thing and Greece was with the "West". Nowadays, many "eastern european" countries have reached and surpassed Greece.

In any case, take a look at the wikipedia map, which countries have compulsory voting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_voting

If you exclude Australia, all other countries are shitholes. And i am sure australians will be the first to tell you that Australia is also a shithole and politically fucked.

As for why compulsory voting, it helps moderate extremism and represents most of society as a whole.

It doesnt. If anything, it might do exactly the opposite. When a greek neonazi party was popular, a lot of "apolitic" greeks supported it not because they supported neonazism but because "fuck the system, at least they will go in and smash some heads". When clueless people are forced to vote, they might be clueless about what they are voting.

America's issue is the first past the post, winner takes all system. If the US had a more representative system, that allowed third parties and coalitions(like almost all other democratic countries have), things would have been better.

You can not enforce new social norms like that. People, including voting ones, will revolt. They will call it undemocratic and a cash grab. You are just asking for trouble.

I dont understand why Americans are horny for mandatory voting. Voting is mandatory in Greece, it makes no difference. It is theoretically illegal to not vote but are you going to imprison people for not voting? So it isnt enforced, at all.

No one is voting because it is mandatory. Greece has 60% participation.