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Well, they also don't like the natives, or themselves, so honestly good work keeping true to the book. 🙃

Regarding the post title, I didn't mean to indicate it being your decision, just that the title in general feels misleading, seeing as no argument is presented and it purports to be about "why" you should do something.

I don't really know a lot about the difference between instances, so I can't really opine on that. From what I'm seeing, it does look as though people are having a discussion, they just don't seem to agree with the idea as presented.

I'm not saying it has to be longer format. I'm saying no argument is made. She could have gave ai the same prompt but with a please and compared the results. I have done so below. She could have used the irrelevant middle section to just display screenshots.

It's fine if you think people should be polite to ai. I think that's great, but if you feel that way regardless of effect on response quality then this video doesn't really make that point either. I think a post saying that and offering your personal opinions might've prompted more discussion on that topic rather than just disagreement with a video that doesn't make that argument.

Here are two prompt comparisons. There is imho no difference in quality when saying please. The same results can be seen regardless of prompt length or how polite I was, I just chose short examples that could have been used in a video if they actually illustrated her point.

List five animals

Here are five animals:

1. Lion
2. Octopus
3. Koala
4. Penguin
5. Jaguar

List five animals please

Here are five animals:

1. Tiger
2. Dolphin
3. Raccoon
4. Falcon
5. Elephant

Create a limerick about being polite

There once was a person so fine, Whose manners were truly divine. They'd say "please" with a grin, And "thank you" within, And their politeness was truly sublime.

Create a limerick about being polite please

There once was a person so bright, Whose politeness was a delight. They'd hold doors with care, And listen with flair, And their kindness was always in sight.

What do you mean you don't buy my argument? My argument that it is more detrimental to workers than owners? Then I'm not sure you understand capitalism, because money in workers pockets is inherently more impactful than money in a capitalists bank account. It's a drop in the ocean for large corporations, but can be the difference between food or housing or healthcare to a worker. The company would be spending that money anyways, so it's already accounted for. The nominal cost of recruitment is just going to come from a salary at the end of the day. All it does is serve to incentivize companies adding extra hoops to the hiring process and potentially screening out real people or causing extra stress/work to apply. This will not discourage workers from applying, since you know, the threat of capitalism still looms large and worker protections are low and are being dismantled day by day.

If you're not coming from an anti capitalist place, then you're right, I don't get it.

I get where you're coming from, but it's pretty clear they are saying the fake applicants would not actually be doing the work. They are just taking the place of people actually out there looking for jobs and making the job search that much harder. Capitalists aren't suffering from this as much as workers are suffering from it.

That's fair, but the are handing him these wins. All of his picks have been smooth sailing and if they had a spine they could impeach him right now. It's not that there are no ways to stop this, it's that he's "too big to fail" and the Rs let it get this way.

I think the issue is the post title. If the title was "role-based prompt engineering" you probably wouldn't have gotten as many comments and certainly not as many disagreeing. She says she's going to make a case for using please, and then fails to provide any actual examples of that. Pointing that out isn't sanctimonious, nor does it mean people are being rude to AI. If you want to make a moral argument for it go ahead, but it seems like she's attempting to propose a technical argument and then just doesn't. For what it's worth, I generally try and leave out superfluous words from prompts, in the same way that googling full sentences was previously less likely to result in a good answer than just key words. AI is not human. It's a tool. If being rude to it ensured it would stop hallucinating, I don't think it'd make you a bad person if you were rude to it.

There's a comment here talking about antisocial behavior in gaming, and imho, if you without hesitation kick a dog in a video game, I'm not sure I'd view you the same way after. Plenty of people talk about how they struggle to do evil play throughs because they don't like using rude options for npcs. Not saying please to AI doesn't make you a psychopath.

She didn't make that point at all. She starts with "not because of the robot apocalypse" meanders in the middle about 'prompt engineering' aka telling ai what manner you want it to respond in - Shakespearean, technical, encyclopedic - (yea, we know) then ends with "it's better to be polite". It's clickbait. She literally does not address why saying please is important outside of the last sentence where she said it's better to be polite. Saved you a click.

Where to even start? Is it good these people are coming out saying that Trump is bad? Yes. Are these people smart? Do these people care about anything or anyone other than their own limited interests? No. Nice of him to casually mention being against apartheid so we know he's not "one of the bad ones". But he is one of the bad ones, he just never thought it'd get THIS bad. He talks about being the party of incremental progress. Who does that actually help? If you think the direction you're moving in is good, wouldn't you want to get there as fast as possible? I'm not part of the "move fast and break things mindset", but how does a slow acceptance of trans rights help anyone but the bigots who feel like any delay is a win? We had to send in the national guard to accompany students attending integrated schools. Should we have done that slower too? Honestly, glad he's saying Trump is bad, but his inability to come to the conclusion that the problem is with conservatism itself makes me question whether he has ever had anything insightful to say about anything.

The same argument the south used. "You can't have morals and be mad that we don't". The north did tell them their voices didn't matter and they did table flip like brats and started a war that the north didn't want. It sucks that some people have to be dragged kicking and screaming into morality, but the truth is that it's not against the working class. They just like to believe the working class are all racist bigots just like themselves. The left kept working families safe and fed with support for unions and osha.

To call educating "pontificating to their unenlightened moral inferiors" is such a self report. As though talking about climate change equated to beheading their family in front of them. These are people that don't like being wrong and don't care about being right, so anyone disagreeing with them is forcing them to be awful people, because what are they supposed to do? Change their mind? Learn something? It really feels like they can't even hear themselves sometimes.

Honestly, I'm past it affecting me personally. I know everyone has a different relationship, but that's republican talk imho. "I'll be upset once I'm affected" is not cutting it for me. I have family that voted Trump and I've cut them off. There's no discussion to be had and I don't want them in my life at this point. They now "are too busy to keep up with the news" when asked about anything Trump has done recently. Absolutely deranged behavior and I don't want them in my home. Again, not saying everyone can do that, but these people likely don't deserve your time, respect, or attention.

Glad you said something. As an American, I know we suck, but so does everyone else (to differing degrees - of course USA is still #1 🥲). We had a target on us for a long time, but Obama was in office when Brexit was happening. We were hoping for change with a black president and the UK was hating immigrants. We're all the same, they just got to us first. I really hope other countries disdain for the US (often deserved) help lead them in different directions. There is a worldwide disinformation campaign, and it's already taken hold in so many places. We are screwed at this point, but there's still hope for other countries. Hearing people act like this is a US specific thing is honestly a little scary. People don't realize how fragile everything is.

Kinda depends on your perspective. It costs advertisers money and pays the website you're visiting. If it's a shitty site with a lot of ads, you're effectively encouraging them putting in more ads. Since you're "clicking" on every ad, and it's not affecting your experience, it sends a message that stuffing the page with all those ads is good for revenue. It also just charges advertisers. I don't personally think running ads inherently makes a company bad, so in my opinion clicking on ads out of spite so they get charged for a useless click is kind of not a great solution imho. It seems like it kinda benefits the wrong people, unless you're exclusively going to great websites running ads for terrible companies.

I'm not on this guys side at all, but it's kinda a weird take to talk about the potential wipeout of an entire group of people as bad because they serve as an irreplaceable time capsule of information. I'm sure you care for other reasons too, but it just struck me as odd.

Love him saying he believed they are in shelters now. As if they were camping on the street when shelters were a great a perfectly viable option they were just ignoring. Even if local shelters have the capacity (they likely don't), there are serious issues with the way a lot of them are run. People generally don't want to be camping on the street, but I guess this guy thinks they were living the life and now are all back on the straight and narrow since out of sight is out of mind.

In this post it seems as though smart is being used to mean completely replacing the thing. I think that having both smart and dumb options is ideal, but in this particular context I think the reference point is that the smart object does not allow a manual override.

I agree with the overall sentiment, but a smart switch would be harder to change than a smart bulb most of the time. Smart switch would require electrical work to replace. A smart bulb can just be swapped. If anything the toilet is a good proxy. A smart flush means it won't manually flush. If they had done a smart fill you could just manually fill the tank with water.

My comment was a bit sarcastic, but tbh I think the new face emoji will actually be used. Feels like looking in a mirror 😭

New root vegetable emoji, soooooooo... yes?

Thanks for your insight as an actual Canadian lol. We really are (and have been) trying to get this under control for years at this point. We appreciate you understanding that and seeing that at least it's not all of us.

One of my Canadian friends parents have trump signs in their yard and they are Canadian and have never been American or even to America. It's really crazy that this is happening so many places. At least we can hope that people see where it's left us and start actually changing their minds for the better for their own country. What happened with Le Pen recently might have happened regardless, but after seeing what not punishing officials leads to, I hope other countries learn from our mistakes.

Good luck up there. I'm sorry this is where we are, but hopefully not for long.

Are you Canadian? I have some Canadian friends and their vibe is mostly pity and offering to help if needed. I hope Canadians aren't upset at Americans as a whole, and I generally don't get that vibe. Obviously I only know Canadians that know me, so they're predisposed to being nice to me lol.