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  • Per usual, you're incorrect. Just because I respond it doesn't mean I'm seeking the last word, and the fact that you're aiming for such an incredibly petty gotcha just proves why you're not a valuable conteibutor

  • I see value in correcting your false statements about me for everyone else present. Not because i think you'll genuinely be able to ever learn something

  • Downvoting isn't a measure of agree/disagree, it's a measure of whether people think the content is a valuable contribution, of which I don't believe you make

  • Given your interactions here, I see little value in trying to talk to you elsewhere

  • If you seriously think taking some backwater nowhere gives Russia the military capabilities to invade the US, I'd like some of whatever you're smoking

  • Your point being? There's only one Georgia I would care if Russia attacked, at it ain't the one they did.

  • How so? I've repeatedly argued that it isn't our fucking problem what happens there.

  • This is the exact attitude I was trying to call out. We are absolutely escalating our participation in this conflict. Trying to strattle the line of participation, where nothing we do is our own fault, and neither are any of the consequences we face. Because I'm not sure how well you did in middle school geography, but the US is, in fact, not a part of Europe. This war has no direct impact on the US beyond the extent we choose to be involved.

    Now if you view the benefits of involvement as greater than the risks, fine. That's a perfectly coherent position. One I don't agree with, but a rational position nonetheless. But to pretend our involvement is just a force of nature we have no control over? That's just a bunch of excuses to support involvement without having to openly commit to a position of involvement.

  • As I see it, we're at a turning point. Either we continue a path of escalation, or we back down, either would be feasible given our current position, but that said current position isn't somewhere we can stay. We either need to accept that sacrificing some global influence is necessary to avoid foreign wars, or that maintaining our current global influence inevitably requires putting soldiers behind our words.

  • During the cold war, there were plenty of instances of fighting between us and soviet forces, not to mention the huge amount of proxy fighting done. Personally, I'm not interested in drawing up a sequel to the cold war.

  • Oh yeah, I don't mean to say otherwise. It was more a rhetorical question to point out the nature of how these things always end up escalating.