Hamas blocks foreign nationals from leaving Gaza
Meowoem @ Meowoem @sh.itjust.works Posts 0Comments 815Joined 2 yr. ago
No I've been following the complexities of the issue for a long time so I understand that it's not a simple as you seem to think. I actually went on a pro Palestine march last time it happened because I was so caught up in the very heavily pushed idea that Israel is evil and the Palestinians are just trying to live normal lives - the more I've followed the situation and attempts at moving forward the more I've come to realise that actually Israel is trying far harder than most countries would to make peace while most the mayor powers in the middle East are actively working against these efforts.
You're pushing the childish notion that the winner in a fight is always the aggressor and that makes no sense. Israel can't just stop fighting and the situation ends - or do you just want them to wait until they've got enough dead to look like victims in your eyes?
There's a lot of ways, I've seen leaflet drops, radio (windup fm radios are widely used), telephone calls (mobile) and drones with speakers being used but I'm sure they're also using other methods too
why would the IDF use human shields? That doesn't even make any sense as the people they're fighting literally targeted a music festival, they don't care about killing civilians. Secondly Israel is using precision guided munitions but Hamas rockets don't even have the accuracy to reliably hit a city let alone to target military infrastructure.
You sound like you've picked a side and will try to say anything to rationalize it, life isn't that simple I'm afraid.
Even I knew a day before it happened that they were telling people to leave the hospital with the command center tunnels under it, I saw them talking about it on the BBC so it's a bit rich to pretend only a few minutes was given.
Hamas literally blocked roads going south and shot at civilians trying to flee the combat zone, Israel is going to great lengths to warn the Palestinian people and get them out the way while hamas are doing everything possible to make sure they can't get out the way.
If you want an actual answer they want the Islamic world to unite and kill everyone else, it's been a pretty constant theme for a while now from middle Eastern terror groups.
That's why the fundamentalists in change (and not living in Gaza) wanted to commit an attack Israel could not ignore, nation's like Saudi Arabia and Jordan we're getting on too well with Israel and that would ruin their chances for a middle Eastern caliphate...
It's funny and sad people find it so easy to deny China is good at tech stuff, they've been spending huge money on education and tech development for at least thirty years now so it really shouldn't surprise anyone they have huge numbers of very well educated tech professionals.
What's really funny is it's fine when corporation's fire their whole workforce and get their product made in China but it's terrible if I buy something from a Chinese company? Ok.
People have such weird notions about Japan, I understand the classic racist infantilization and everything but this is the country that vomited anime all over the world and a dozen other crazy things - they can handle having a few people make cringe content.
The videos of this looked absolutely terrifying
That's what I've been looking for too, I think maybe I need to make an account somewhere that doesn't defederste from anyone with differing opinions?
It seems 'People who disagree with me are ontological evil and should be silenced' isn't the best place to get news and accurate information from.
You're saying a lot of things in strong terms but not proving any evidence for why you're right and groups like TfL who are regarded as one of the most advanced public transport networks in the world are wrong when they say mixed mode integrated transport networks are the only viable option.
Just adding swearwords and huffing like youre some expert talking down to a fool is a fun tactic in a discussion but when you don't have anything to back it up then it just makes you look like a bloviating jackass.
Do you really think that running train lines to every rural house is ecologically more sound than cars? And we run them all empty on the of chance that someone wants to use them? Do we run a cargo line to ever farm and factory?
There are use cases where ecologically speaking personal vehicles are the only even vaguely sensible solution.
If you had a heart attack would you like the paramedics to spend an hour waiting for trains then another hour on trains taking you to the hospital? Maybe special ambulance trains that wizz past the others and delay everyone hours because the schedules got messed up while they were in sidings? No? Then we're building roads anyway and it would be silly not to use them.
And yes air travel using efuels is ecologically far less impactful then train travel even on legacy lines (i.e. lines which have repaid their initial construction cost (ecological), these don't really exist much because maintenance continues to add significant ecological cost.)
Cost over the life of infrastructure per person mile is actually very low for aviation, airports are cheaper than trainlines by a wide margin and planes are about the same cost as trains per served mile, a bit cheaper but thats largely due to economies of scale so I'll be charitable and handwave it.
We need more trains, we get more trains by being realistic about where they're useful and proposing and supporting sensible developments. Personally I am angry at the endless green flag waving idiots that opposed HS2 because it was going though forests, that is an amazingly good use of trains and have been already reducing both car and lorry use on some of the UK's busiest roads while also serving as a great starting point to a integrated cargo network requiring only last mile trucking - but it got shit all over by so many people including idiots that shout on Facebook about how terrible cars are and then say the HS2 cargo transport plan was bad because it was built around mixed mode rather than some magic transporter or what most the lunatics actually seen to want a return to barbarism and the destruction of our modern society.
You're begging the question and putting words onto my mouth.
No I'm not a member of any transphobic hate groups, I have as I've said read groups expounding TIRF and TERF viewpoints. The groups I've been in as I stated have not included abuse, harassment, or insults. They've actually been very respectful and interesting communities with plenty of intelligent people discussing things in a friendly and polite manor.
As in said the assumption that anyone who doesn't agree entirely with your opinion is a monster is easy to make but rarely true.
Palestinians plead ‘stop the bombs’ at UN meeting but Israel insists Hamas must be ‘obliterated’
I completely agree, and I really think they do because if they wanted to they could wipe that place off the map in an hour but whats always stopped their military is global public opinion due to civilian casualties. It doesn't make sense for them to give Hamas political capitol by targeting civilians.
I absolutely agree some of their tactics have been brutal and civilian casualties are high but that's true in every war.
Israel has been making major strides in creating friendly relations where possible in the region, especially with Jordan and Saudi Arabia - the last thing they need is a brutal conflict resulting in dead Muslims, however Muslim fundamentalists benefit greatly from Israel looking bad which is why it's likely Iran and other groups have forced this conflict and planned it in a way that makes civilian casualties impossible to avoid.
I think there are probably better solutions than what's currently happening, I have no idea what they would be though and everything I think of has either been tried or has obvious flaws.
You mean Palestine shouldn't fire bombs at Israel because that's what gave right-wing hardliners like netanyahu mandate?
Acting like this is one sided just isn't reasonable, its a painfully complex situation.
The accusation that anyone who understands the difficult situation Israel faces is a Jewish fundamentalist is absurd, we might as well say anyone that supports Palestine is a Muslim fundamentalist that wants Sharia law worldwide.
I'm not defending everything Israel has done but also I'm not dumb enough to think if the tables were reversed that Palestine would be smiling as Israel chucks rockets at it and saying 'we don't want to kill Israeli citizens so we're not going to fire back' we all know they'd have done what they often talk about and pushes the Jews into the sea.
I don't like the government of Israel but at least they care about their own citizens, Hamas are controlled by religious crazies like Iran who are more than happy to increase the suffering of their citizens just to create good propaganda - hence digging up water pipes to make rockets, stockpiling fuel underground while hospitals run dry, putting military facilities under schools and hospitals, blocking roads so civilians can't flee combat zones, and endless more examples.
America blockaded Cuba without them killing any American civilians, yes Israel is in a fairly unique position but you're kidding yourself if you think any other nation would react differently.
That got delayed because elitists put all their effort into attacking things that make it easier to use for normal people rather than working to improve the experience for all
If Cuba started firing missiles at the US the whole place would be ash in hours, I don't understand what people expect Israel to do when literally every other country on the planet would defend themselves.
If I had my way then manufacturing would be publicly owned and based on open source principles, that wouldn't change the fact that transport networks are still going to require cars.
Do we over use cars? Yes. Can we totally do without cars, vans and specialist vehicles? No.
They're incredibly versatile and hugely efficient in certain usecase situations, the infrastructure is orders of magnitude cheaper and easier to maintain than any other alternative.
Ecologically they can make a lot of sense too, especially fleet managed electric self-drive which is without a doubt where we're heading.
Investing in long distance passenger train networks isn't a great strategy at the moment, by the time it's half built it's very likely efuels already on the market now will have significant adoption in aviation thus making flying a far less polluting means of travel than trains -- but it'll be too late to change because you've already released all that carbon from the huge steel works needed to make the tracks.
What we should be doing is creating car friendly transport hubs allowing people to do first and return mile by car and linking all those transport hubs with efficient, affordable, safe, and reliable short and medium train lines. Cities should have tube and tram networks that are accomodating to all and which include the protections required for safety of the passengers, especially from other passengers.
'women getting harassed doesn't matter' isn't an acceptable answer, 'disabled people can just stay home' isn't an acceptable answer, 'People who need to transport stuff can't' isn't an acceptable answer... Until rail based public transport can actually fill all the needs of the people it's not a viable solution in it's own.
Mixed mode integrated transport network is what every single person who has any interest in transportation agrees is the best solution, everyone except the kneejerk flatearth anticar nuts of course.
I'm the groups I've been in I seen I've not seen abuse, I've seen people stating their opinions. It's easy to pretend the people who disagree with you are monsters but that's not reality.
Yes, they're funding terrorism based on an absurd pipedream that they use to maintain their own power, sadly a very common story.