Meowoem @ Meowoem @sh.itjust.works

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I don't understand? Is this a weird joke about women being attracted to violent guys or something?

They might think the boats have trapped us like they trap whales and fish, they probably want to team up against the menace

I think you probably don't understand the article because you only read the headline, the actual study is very interesting and solves a problem that was often talked about before. Those of us with an interest in this field recognise the advancement that's been made are are interested in the implications,

The headline is like if every article about CERN, James Webb, and any other physics study was titled 'could lead to unified field theory' or if every time anyone releases a new machine learning model the headlines were all about AGI - Oh yeah, they do that one too...

So yes it's a bad headline but it's great science and we really are making great progress with printable PV - there will come a time where you start seeing it everywhere.

Much like AI people have known that the relevant breakthroughs have been coming for a long time but it's not until a certain threshold is met that we see companies scrambling to stake their claim. Someone will make a factory producing one of the various printable PV methods and market it to a suitable situation, people will find other uses for it also besides the initial market and as demand becomes established others will leap on and start making their own variation.

No one is getting impaled on a forty degree corner lol

I too hate when they make an article that uses science to demonstrate my assumptions were right, they should know that no one cares about the truth! we had our assumptions that should be enough!

What's really hurting the numbers is the fact no one follows what actually happens in the world and just loudly puts on a performance of trendy rhetoric.

Yeah people have painfully simple thinking about it, but the same is true for what you say about a slow green transition - yes we should go faster and put more effort in but we are actually moving impressively fast in most areas.

Debt is ok if it translates to more income later, in national terms income really means production potential and that increased ability to produce things should result in a better standard of living for the people who make up the country. This is why it's such a problem when the rich just take it all for absurd luxuries.

The current rate of green technology transition is better than it looks for a similar theoretical reason, most the real effort is currently being spent on developing technology and building infrastructural backbones like the huge grid connection cabels out to areas suitable for large scale renewable projects. Plenty of turbines and solar farms are getting built of course with new supply chains, tooling methods, and working principles being developed as we go. The price, both economic and environmental of putting in wind and solar has dropped dramatically and continues to.

There's a lot of research projects that should be getting more funding and a lot of oil, coal and gas money that should be going to building renewables but there is a lot of funding going to great projects and as we get better tooling to manufacture the parts and install them the rate of adoption is going to skyrocket.

If we invest in building the tools then we'll be making wind turbines out of sequestered carbon and putting them up quicker then you can count them. If we invest everything in increasing capacity it'll end up in a whole load of low quality things getting made in processes that do more harm to the environment than of we hadn't bothered.

Of course consumer adoption is a huge thing and we should all get solar panels end whatever else we can but we also need to acknowledge the good things being done, praise them and call for more.

The maths are pretty clear though, we know consumers have the money needed to pay for blockbusters and that they don't mind giving it over to view entertainment because that's where the companies get the money from - in fact we know that there is excess because a large portion goes to shareholders as profit.

Collectively we could combine community creation, open source tooling and creator funding to make things on a far larger scale than any marvel movie, I don't really think we should tbh but funding reasonable ventures, tools and resources is something we absolutely can and should be doing.

So you're a climate change denier? You don't think we need to worry about co2 levels?

Or is this just a knee jerk unthought responce because you hate science and technology?

It's a repression thing, they can't face having sexual fantasies of their own so their mind tricks them into thinking they're super interested in every news story about wild sex things - suddenly they're up all night imagining wild and perverted things that are probably happening, but not because they like thinking about those things they reassure themselves, they're a good moral person trying to protect civic morality...

Read interviews with satanic panic people, endless vivid details right out of an extreme romance novel. Tiktok human trafficking panic is another example, those videos with obviously made up warnings about sex rings and kidnapping methods - it's all structured just like it's porn equivalents.

People need to start paying creators to make stuff for the public domain and refuse to pay to access anything that everyone doesn't have access to.

I've given Wikipedia money, I'll never pay for Netflix.

And this technology is ideal for going over rail, road, parking areas and all that sort of stuff so of course it's likely to end up used in those places.

It's also almost certainly going to be painted onto truck roofs, RVs, trailers, boat decks, fencing, marquees, and just about everything else. We'll certainly see rolls of it carried in pretty much all groups that go camping or work in off grid locations - take the roll, steak out two corners then unroll it onto a sunny bit of ground and suddenly you've got twenty square meters of PV charging your vehicles, phones, laptops, and tools. Life boats with power to run desalination equipment and satellite communications will save many lives.

At a low enough price point it's worth it just to maintain charge in an ICE's starter battery when left idle and to power monitoring systems, for electric trucks it's a no brainer - free fuel and extended range for the cost of a paint job? It doesn't matter how little range it adds or how slow the fuel trickes in it'll become ubiquitous pretty much over night.

Your physics isn't terrible but you're making absurd leaps into nonsence with the rest, you also don't seem to have practical awareness of trucking logistics.

Here's a thought experiment, if sticking news paper to the outside of your truck was proven to give a 5% fuel cost reduction how long do you think it would take before you see a truck covered in news paper? Probably hours at most, truck drivers don't like stopping to piss because the extra fuel required to accelerate to highway speeds cuts into their margins so you can be damn sure that if there was an inexpensive way to reduce the cost of charging their truck everyone will be on that.

Also trunks have a lot of stuff beyond the motor, security and logging systems for example as well as various forms of climate control. Also being able to leave a vehicle idle and have it's fuel slowly increase instead of decrease / denature is a huge thing in a lot of situations.

If course is not going to make a truck that can drive a heavy load without recharging but if its only going to cost the same as a paint coating and can supply a slow trickle then it'll be a very popular product.

Even more so for things like agricultural machinery, leasure vehicles such as campers and boats, or anything with large gaps between uses.

Yeah, how dare they report on science and technology - I've barely seen a dozen articles about Will Smith's personal life today, we don't have resources to waste talking about successful research projects from MIT!

When MIT get in a salacious romance scandal then they can have a bit of our precious media space but get the fuck out of here with your science bullshit nerds.

I love when people act like progress never happens, we're in a world where developments happen so fast it's impossible to keep up with a single field of development because so much new stuff is happening but sure anyone interested in the emergence of printable pv is a rube...

I see the same in ai discussion, I use it when coding all the time but every article about a new development has someone saying it's useless and a gimmick.

Rapid deployment solar is happening whether you like it or not, the science has been building for a couple of decades and every interesting new study and development opens up new avenues of possibility. This will be a game changer in many situations and it's something we can see getting closer, studies like this are so interesting because we can see which avenues things are likely to take and consider how it would affect things.

We have a tendency to think of science as someone waking up and inventing something and then it's ready to hit the shelves but it's never worked like that. If you'd been reading the news when photography was new you'd see endless news stories about progress towards colour photography, about potential methods and means of a making a single plate colour image - famously you'd have also seen discussions in the letters section of the Times between some of the chemists that'd go on to actually solve it.

Progress happens, science happens - sure you don't care that they found a way of transferring printed solar onto fabric which avoids the need for the fabric to be able to endure the entire fabrication process but it's actually a pretty cool thing. The article is kinda dumb I really don't think this process will hold up to the intense sea air and mechanical stress of being a sail but for simpler uses such as an awning cover over carparks or even better train lines its likely to be very useful - imagine being able to generate the power for electric vehicle charging or train travel simply from a fabric roof which also shades the area from hot sun.

A process that makes the current chemistry cheap and fast to print onto a useful material is a big thing, not as huge as extending the working life of the materials but by being easier to make and replace we might find that there are a lot of uses for rapid temporary deployment of PV in situations like disaster zones but also in seasonal infrastructure which is especially important for things like music festivals, holiday locations (which see power usage vastly increased when tourists are in town), and travel routes.

Some of us like learning about science and technology, if you only want to know about products then watch adverts.

The average person understands the difference between 'will' and 'could'

That's ridiculous, it's obvious they're just normal hackers who are doing the very standard thing of collecting family connections and relationship data so they can locate the true scion of Jesus and unlock the secrets of the holy grail. It's what all the scam centers and bot armies do.

That is depressingly true, though I do think there's hope. I'm in a lot of open source dev and design communities, they're flourishing and growing steadily because they're able to build on all the prior developments. Every day people are writing code to improve design tools, and writing code to improve programming languages and development environments so that it's easier to make better design tools .. and the better the design tools get the easier it is to make better designs on them, easier to build on prior open source designs and improve or customise them.

I already use AI coding tools in my open source project, they're awkward and not always useful but for certain tasks they can save hours - for example I got it to divide a circle into an arbitrary amount of sections and return the quadrant coordinates, I could have worked it out and coded it myself but not doing things like that allows me to make much more progress. The easier it gets to code the more time I'll be focused on making it do useful things which will result in a far better product.

Likewise the complexity and quality of stuff I see on 3d printing model sites continues to improve, printers continue to improve... We can't be far away from ai assisted pick&place enabling complex electronics to be built into designs - there will be a cheap open source printer that can make everything except the magnets in the motors. A lot of companies are going to find the their entire product line is completing against items that can be made better and cheaper in any tech guys garage.

It wasn't eBay that took down Tandy and Maplins it was the people with any garage space buying the same bulk orders of components but selling them without the overheads. The same will happen to Hotpoint and Logitech, people who have bootstrapped high quality fabrication labs in the garage selling things made from open source designs.

They won't be able to stop it, they might slow it for a while but progress is as a river in that you can only hold it back so long.

People who want to pretend this couldn't happen in America need to realise 2021 Maryland used obscenity laws banning oral sex to raid a gay bookstore and arrest people for having sex in private. That's a somewhat rural part of one of the most progressive states, there are far too many republicans that would love to use some flimsy excuse to criminalize gay people and throw as many in jail as possible.

I think if we don't change the system then we're going to have a world of hurt for pretty much everyone, if we do change the system into something that facilitate an existence where people can survive periods without work or with minimal work then it could become a golden age.

A lot of the big problems with that comes from legacy obsessions which persist even when technical solutions have displaced the need or reason behind them. Building sites are already nothing like they used to be, the cost of construction has fallen dramatically especially in labour time but house prices rise because they're not tied to construction cost but availability, which is often kept purposely low so rich people who run government can have big numbers in their balance s sheets. At some point this stress point will fracture.

Subtle automation already makes things like surveying and designing incredibly easy, we're not far from the point where ai assisted architecture tools are as easy to use as the Sims and will produce plans which can be automatically passed or rejected for the technical side of planning. Not only will more visible forms of automation like concrete shuttering and pouring become more widely adopted this again reducing the time and cost of construction but they'll have sensor driven analysis which can be uploaded to local authorities for instant inspection and verification. Likewise for cable routing, pipework, insulation, plastering, brickwork, roofing, decorating...

When a house can be demolished and rebuilt in weeks for the cost of machine rental and materials then the housing crisis will fade away, especially when industrial areas shrink due to efficiency of automation, office space gets repurposed, and transport infrastructure gains efficiency - areas like where I live in the UK with absurd property prices are almost certainly going to see automated construction tools take a lot of industry and transport underground - shooting cargo down small underground networks could replace a huge amount of road and rail usage which would be a huge positive for people and free up space for housing.

I got off track but what I'm getting at is we can use these things to solve major problems in our society, but we need to make sure people can lose their job and go through peeiods of adjustment without it ruining their life.