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Just based on Queens, NY, I think the republicans in NYC capitalized on some of the things Democrats “beat around the bush” or avoided talking about. The Asian American population in NY is very anti-crime, and the dems perceived inaction on Anti-Asian Hate created an opening some I think local republicans capitalized on. Even the current mayor is a former cop.

Agreed 100%, it seems like empty virtue signalling that the left will back off on if it's not the 'right' minority to defend.

Now, how they got to be die-hard Trumpers is not something I understand. He did, after all, cause Asian Americans a-lot of grief with his whole “China Virus” BS during the pandemic…

I can only speak for my asian community. But him calling it the 'china virus' was not a big deal to us. Him calling it the 'Kung Flu' will never fail to make me laugh.

but thank you for adding additional examples, thus strengthening my point.

I don't get why you're acting like this is a fight you need to win. I said I'm from rural WA and don't see many Trump Trucks. That's a fact. You then told me that means I don't get out much? Which is an absurd conclusion based on one sentence of communication.

I didn't say there weren't any trump supporters, look back at my first comment. What I said is it's baffling to me because that trumper culture isn't prevelant out here, you're here saying 'well if you go to this specific district, in this area, there's this sign at this dealership' doesn't mean there's a big trump culture in washington.

If this is important to you, why do you affiliate with the Gaslight Obstruct Project party?

1. I don't affiliate with the GOP
2. How is that relevant towards wanted to see the two parties governors, that have conflicting policies, argue for theirs and against the others policies?

Or when you say “debate” do you mean poo fling?

No, I mean debate.

Funding is drastically different from area to area. You go to a rich white area and the schools are top notch.

It is but even title 1 schools get great funding compared to other nations.

It's not that we spend 60k on rich white students and 0 on poor minority students and average 30k/student.

Spending has not correlated with good education, so spending isn't the solution we would hope for.

The schools that need funding don’t get it. Inequality like most things in America is the reason. It’s by design to keep the poor in their seats.

I agree, schools are the most segregated since we literally had segregation. Our school system, the funding, the demographics and our approach has all been a failure, but the lefts solution is to throw more money at it rather than actually addressing issues.

Yeah, it is very disheartening to see. I still remember going back and watching previous debates before Trump, and they were all so civil! Even in the most heated moments, the candidates were actually discussing ideas and policy!

Honestly, I think that was a huge problem and why the right got pushed so far out there.

McCain and Romney were incredibly civil reasonable candidates. But they got attacked constantly, magazine covers of McCain having sharpened teeth calling him a war monger, Biden yelled at everyone that Romney wanted to put black people back in chains.

The republicans saw this and were like 'wtf, no they're reasonable, why are they getting attacked?' then Trump comes along and he gets (rightfully) attacked, and the republicans were numb to it. For 15 years, as long as I can remember, every republican candidate was trashed by the media, and called racist, sexist everything-ist, that once someone who actually fit that bill came along, the republicans were numb to it.

Don't be fooled, the 2004, 2008 and 2012 elections weren't civil, despite most candidates being reasonable.

You must not get out much.

I'm pretty confident I'm very well traveled around the state, much more than the average Washingtonian.

Spend any amount of time in WA-3

Oooooh so you mean I must not be well traveled in this specific district you're talking about? Yeah, not that much, but the times I have traveled down that way to portland, the coast or other areas out there is what I was talking about seeing some Trump Trucks.

I do love that sign though, driving down I5 about inslee, that cracks me up every time.

Assault weapon bans for the wrong citizens

sanctuary cities/states

negligence of the problem of homelessness and actively encouraging it

Restricting sales of certain cars & insane gas taxes

Covid shut downs

Far left? Are you fucking high?

No, not yet.

Despite your hostility, I'll entertain you. You know, a civil person, like someone else that responded to me, would have asked why I thought he was far left.

And what solutions has DeSantis come up with that are good?

I liked his covid policy, and many people did too. Keep schools open, protect the vulnerable. The economy kept going, the state grew and his popularity blew up. Even far left folks like AOC wanted to visit to get away from her NY restrictions. He's been good for the Florida natural environment as well as economy.

Banning books?

I think we may have different views on this, schools are locally funded by tax payers. Tax payers should get a say in what books they pay for in schools. If parents think 'gender queer' is too perverted for 3rd graders, I think it's the parents right to have a voice and say in that.

Teaching kids slavery had its good points?

I actually read the portion the media is blowing up about. It's in a ~200 page text book that has one sentence saying that some slaves picked up skills that helped their lives post slavery. It's really not that big of a deal, is truthful and only a problem for people wanting a headline.

I appreciate the upvote, unfortunately the way she goes on social media, if I saw I'm conservative at all, instant downvote.

As I mentioned I don't know too much about him, but do know some of his notably left positions:

'assault' weapon bans for some citizens (I'm against exceptions in these cases, my state just passed an AWB, but current and former law enforcement are exempt, that's just saying that this population, that has a high rate of DV, have more rights than the other citizens)

Him being proud of being a sanctuary state/have sanctuary cities. The left wants more federal government power, but if it's inconvienent for them, will not enforce laws that the nation has passed. They're also the ones that get pissed if a republican state doesn't want a federal law enacted.

Fighting against private businesses (walgreens) for making decisions that the governor doesn't like. If someone is pissed at how DeSantis has handled disney, they should be more pissed at Newsom's handling of Walgreens.

What anti-lgbt stuff did they vote against?

Strangest thing to me is that I know quite a few Asians that immigrated here that are super Trumpers. I just can’t even grasp how.

I'm first generation so maybe I can lend another viewpoint here. Obviously there is the fact that they tend to come from more conservative, religious countries, but there's a lot more.

Asian immigrants tend to have a culture of being studious and working hard. This has led to a lot of success, and even surpassing the white folk in a lot of thriving metrics. We're told this is because white folk gave us special privileges to keep other minorities in check. The left has fought against protections for asian immigrants rather than treating them as they would other minorities. Affirmative action hurts asians, because asians tend to care more about grades. A lot of us feel we're being punished because of this.

Remember when the #stopasianhate stuff was going on? That was short lived, because it started to come out that the hate crimes were disproportionately committed by black perpetrators.

We're a minority when it's convenient to the left, and thrown away when it's inconvenient.

Asians also are more strict on immigration, actually almost every legal immigrant population tends to be harsh on illegal immigration.

Asian immigrants tend to be more socially conservative, and align with the right on that, and the right isn't actively working against the asian community.

Is that the only metric?

I voted for him in '16, same with my pa. Does someone have to be a 'never trumper' to be reasonable? I'm in the PNW too, I've seen a handful of Trump Trucks, but despite being from a more rural area (you know there are a lot of conservative pockets in the PNW), there isn't this widespread support of Trump, from what I've seen.

They avoid any information that contradicts their belief system and gravitate towards media that reaffirms it.

Isn't that the same with twitter, reddit, CNN MSNBC? It's a more broad media problem. When was the last time most people watched or read any media that directly conflicted with their beliefs?

I mean, isn't that the media as a whole? The whole media is about outrage, it's not about reporting news.

I'm pretty conservative, so is my pa, and we used to watch CNN's news coverage back in the early 00's. Now, try watching CNN, MSNBC and FOX, it's all 'political commentary.' There's no news, there's outrage.

We've dimished knowledge into 140 characters with a screenshot attached. No context, no actual reporting or knowledge of the whole situation. Just some quick 1 liners to rile up their base. The republicans have chosen their demi-god because they've been losing, but I can't say that if the dems were losing that they wouldn't do the same thing.

Conspiracy theorists and hate are more or less the norm in conservative circles, so far as I can tell.

I don't think they're conservative. I think republicans have given up on being conservative, and just now fight culture war and spend as much if not more than the dems.

I've been trying to be diligent about not conflating republicans and conservatives anymore, they haven't been conservative in awhile. Republicans have been overwhelmingly blindly following Trump, conservatives haven't.

Agreed, my only hope is that Trump will absolutely fall so hard that there is no way people can support him still (at this point, it may take his death, but even then, what conspiracies would come from that?), and the 'right' sees a series of defeats that they are forced to re-brand, become more liberal on social issues and actually try to be the conservative party of fiscal responsibility.

It is, but I don't know why. We have the most public funding per full time student in the world....that money's getting lost somewhere, I assume the administration level of schools.

It's baffling to me, every poll I see like this I'm just confused and sad

As a conservative, this is mind boggling to me. In my head I think it's just a far right crazy conspiracy theory, but between this and the huge amount of support trump gets, I'm just baffled. I'm on the west coast, and none of my friends or family still support Trump or are election deniers.

Maybe the mid west republicans are just 100% trumpers? It's wild.

I was very skeptical of high inflation and the job market, and although the tech industry has lost quite a bit of steam, overall the economy is doing much better than I expected. Good job, Federal Reserve.