Michael @ M1ch431 @slrpnk.net

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If I was there, if I was involved in law enforcement, if I had access to the crime scene and raw footage and evidence, I might be able to speculate. Armchair speculation is insufficient for me.

There are plenty of events that raise legitimate questions and concerns - like suspicious, high profile deaths that are immediately ruled as suicide. Everybody is free to hold their own positions and perspectives as far as I am concerned. Question on, sate your concern and curiosity, you'll get no arguments against that from me.

Of course, a true conspiracy unfolds because the masses are unaware. The masses are gaslit if they start catching on.

But in the absence of compelling evidence, it's pointless to wildly speculate about from my perspective.

Thanks for the response, I enjoyed reading it and our sentiment largely aligns.

Thanks.

I caught on to his bullshit pretty quick when he came into the public eye - before his stroke. Is there a lot of evidence pointing to his past misconduct?

I'm not making an argument for chemtrails. It's pointless to speculate about, there is no evidence or smoking gun.

I'm just suggesting that we be kind and empathetic towards individuals that do believe these sorts of things. Is it out of character for the US government? Nah, not really.

Many of these people probably were living in or around 1969. In their lived reality, the US government was doing shit like this. Have things really gotten better?

These are the people voting Trump in, dude, you cant actually be this dense

Of course these individuals share responsibility for potentially voting for him, but we ALL share responsibility for him rising to power.

No, but I do try to make the world a less stupid place when I can

We don't need to call out stupidity to make it a better place. Expressing yourself with clarity and confidence of thought is infinitely better.

If they’re too stupid to learn basic science then I reeeeally don’t care

You don't need to care about any of this.

Ok? They’re also very stupid individuals, I don’t care at all what makes them believe the blatantly stupid thing, only that they refuse to accept reality

If somebody you love is frightened (in a general sense), what would you do? Calming them down and helping to see the truth would be one potential path to ease their suffering. What would making fun of them do?

You’re doing an awful lot of defending of people who are choosing to behave the way they do, it’s weird. Gonna file you in with them and call it a day, you don’t seem to be too far from them in the ol’ comprehension skill

Do what you want, I'm not going to apologize for my behavior or take it personally. If my crime is being too empathetic, guess I'm guilty.

The Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee called for using far-right candidates “as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right.” Clinton’s camp insisted that Trump and other extremists should be “elevated” to “leaders of the pack” and media outlets should be told to “take them seriously.”

Hillary Clinton, the DNC, and mainstream media played a pretty big role in Trump's rise to power. Everybody is responsible for his rise to power, but the facts are facts. They intentionally elevated him.

They’re willingly living in stupidity. If we just let people do that we get people like Trump, so Id rather avoid that

These people don't have power over others like Trump.

Neither can I, but as I said you’re purposefully ignoring a big part of what’s being discussed: the part where they don’t ever tread back out of delusion. There’s 0 defense for that

You aren't responsible for other's beliefs. You are loosely reveling in their suffering, whether you realize it or not. They are very concerned and are likely vulnerable individuals.

Plenty of things happen in this world that each respective populace doesn't consent to.

Seriously, why single them out for going a little crazy? It's not like I haven't pointed at somebody and laughed in the past, so no judgement here, but the whole system and world order is nuts and we need something new.

If you are worried about people holding factually incorrect or wrong beliefs, e.g. delusions, then advocate for decentralized media, unbiased news organizations, etc. Help elevate voices that help others to climb out of their delusions and fear.

Why go out of your way to disprove them, laugh at them, or name-call them? You can just empathize with them.

For me, I'd rather address why the government HAS felt it had the right to experiment on us. I can NOT blame these individuals for treading into delusion with our current system being the way it is, especially considering the history.

I read enough of OP's comments and looked at their past commenting/post history and it was pretty clear that it was a cry for help. It wasn't for karma - they deleted their account. OP was nothing but polite and responded to many comments.

Of course, I do realize that there is a lot of junk, especially on the front page.

It's not hard to give somebody the benefit of the doubt, be compassionate, and direct them to services and resources that can help them. It takes much more effort to be hateful, doubtful, and judgemental.

OP's last comment was them admitting that they should be institutionalized, they also admitted that they were probably being lazy given the massive amounts of comments accusing them of such behavior.

OP didn't give off the air of being unable to live independently, they just couldn't do physical chores, like taking out the garbage, because their heart rate would go up to 200~ upon standing.

If OP just hired a cleaning service - problem solved.

Everybody deserves kindness, compassion, and empathy.

Ableist people also include people that idealize not being ableist. They come up with excuses like, "I'm not being ableist, I'm just giving you hard love!", or, "You need to do what I say and do it exactly how I say because I care about you!".

There was a reddit thread on the frontpage recently where many people were dog-piling on a severely disabled person. The person was diagnosed with moderate autism with intellectual disability, a severe heart condition, severe PTSD, and ADHD.

Many people came into the thread to say that OP was making up their disability, that OP should be institutionalized if they can't comply with the unreasonable (and harmful to OP's health) demands from their relative, they accused OP of being a troll because their doctor wouldn't give them bad advice (OP bought $30 dollars worth of alcohol every couple months to entertain with friends with their doctor's blessing), they shamed OP for not getting a job when they can barely stand up on their own two feet (and OP's doctor/therapist/psychiatrist say OP can't work), and so forth.

OP's aunt was fining OP (who is on a limited income of $1000 a month and charging OP $500 a month for rent) $200 dollars for every instance of them not doing their chores exactly how their aunt wanted and behaving in the way that the aunt wanted. OP was a formal tenant, and living in a split unit and was mostly independent, though unable to do things like take out the trash. If OP reached fines totaling $2000 dollars, OP's aunt threatened them with institutionalization and/or homelessness.

Commenters said how sick OP's story made them (the sickness being directed towards OP), how bad they felt for OP's aunt, they commented how OP's aunt's demands were completely justified because her resentment built for many years from "putting up" with OP, they said how disgusted they are were at OP's "laziness", and many chimed into to say how they are also disabled and OP doesn't deserve special attention or care because OP is a grown adult. Most repeating constantly that they weren't being ableist.

Some people even coaxed OP into detailing their sexual relations with others, while questioning OP about their heart condition.

It was truly heartbreaking to witness an incredibly vulnerable person being abused to that degree by their relative and hundreds, if not thousands, of redditors. OP eventually deleted their reddit account.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea-Spray

From the page:

Between 1949 and 1969, open-air tests of biological agents were conducted 239 times.

239 open-air tests of biological agents in a 20 year period. Remind me again why people have no reason to be paranoid? This wasn't that long ago.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

These aren't conspiracy theories.

Is there something real behind these people's paranoia and suspicion? Do our government, military, and our corporations inspire trust?

Can you blame them when the US government has directly experimented on the American populace in past?

e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea-Spray

From the page:

Between 1949 and 1969, open-air tests of biological agents were conducted 239 times.

239 open-air tests of biological agents in a 20 year period. Many, many people are still alive from that time period. It's not that long ago.

Or more broadly, just look at this page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

Do those pages inspire trust in the government and military? Would you know if you were being experimented on and gaslit?

Corporations engage in similar unethical behavior, like putting very toxic ingredients in products we consume or put on our bodies.

Instead of blaming or name-calling people who are paranoid, we need a society with a greater focus on human rights — with more regulation and oversight. A society that inspires trust, with the facts and independent review to back it up.

💯%.

I hear you. I just wonder, will it be worth it in the end to for them to see to it that society rots and capitalism "wins", by shutting down discourse in the limited places that it is able to exist?

I'd reason that it won't be worth it. I just wish they could see it that way too.

That nuance is not important - it's not worth wasting your breath on. If people focused on root causes of the dysfunction and the change needed to solve the issues plaguing our societies - we'd be much better off.

The nuance isn't lost to me, I just don't care to quantify it and then shout it out to the heavens. It makes no difference to me whether Elon Musk is worse than Bill Gates. They can duke that battle out themselves if they care to.

I'll reiterate the point from my other comment. Value judgements are a waste of time, energy, and our voices.

Whether or not Bill Gates is worse than Elon Musk is just as important as to whether Tom Cruise is a better actor than Leonardo DiCaprio. Neither value judgement is worth my breath. It's a pointless exercise.

We are reaching a critical junction in our timeline where these billionaires can not and should not exist any longer. We've learned our lessons, their benefit and merit is irrelevant because even the best billionaires sit silently and are complicit. They have power, influence, and wealth - all the ingredients needed to directly affect change.

At best, they throw around pennies that don't address root causes and play the PR game, or play the blame game by focusing on individuals who are absolutely not responsible for the root causes of various issues that plague our societies.

If engineers/developers directly involved with Microsoft have called out Microsoft, and they were quickly silenced and fired, I'm more inclined to believe them versus a supposed lack of evidence.

Older reporting: https://www.972mag.com/microsoft-azure-openai-israeli-army-cloud/

According to the documents, the AI services that the Defense Ministry purchased from Microsoft include translation (about half of the average monthly consumption during the first year of the war), OpenAI’s GPT-4 model (about a quarter of the consumption), a speech-to-text conversion tool, and an automatic document analysis tool. In October 2023, the army’s monthly consumption of AI services provided by Azure jumped sevenfold compared to the month preceding the war; by March 2024, it was 64 times higher.

AI is a commodity that's being developed by the few. They are shaping it to do things that are not for human benefit, like war and surveillance. It's the truth. They are responsible for their choices and actions, they are consciously making this technology.

If you read the bottom part of my response, you'd hear that I'm just calling out the bullshit you're peddling. You don't really care, you're focused on purity testing impassioned individuals who feel strongly about these subjects.

Microsoft is making the decision to directly sell their AI to that state and its military. It doesn't change the fact that every being on earth shares responsibility as well. But I don't have a direct ability to stop Microsoft from choosing to sell their proprietary technologies to support a country in surveilling, targeting, and killing innocents.

I will do everything in my power to voice my opinion and convince others that AI shouldn't be used for war. I don't want to live in that world and I'm sure many others don't as well.

As for Linus, his stances about the use of his technology in war is pretty clear. He doesn't like it, but he can't stop it. His software is open-source. There's a big difference between open-source software you give to all for free (for the benefit of all of humanity) and proprietary software that you provide only with payment.

I think making value judgements on individuals is a counterproductive use of our time, energy, and voice. That's what I'm trying to point out.

If we focused on root causes and the change we'd like to see to solve those problems, we'd be smooth sailing as a world already.