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They are busy drawing up plans for their new beachfront condo in Gaza.

International courts have told Israel to stop many times and they rarely, if ever, listen. Why would this time be different?

My father: High school diploma, homeowner, family man, good retirement.

Me: Good STEM degree, can't afford home, can't afford family, can't afford retirement.

This article (and you): Why would social media do this?

I would start with MLK, collected essays, no one writes about protest more eloquently.

A Peoples History of the United States by Howard Zinn gives a great broad overview.

Death in the Haymarket by James Green is a great history of the first decades of the labor movement.

Doris Kearns Goodwin's Leadership in Turbulent Times goes in depth on LBJ and the civil rights movement.

On the Duty of Civil Disobedience by Henry David Thoreau for the classic philosopher's take.

We've Got People by Ryan Grim details the successes and failures of the movement in the last decade.

You should educate yourself on the history of protest. The media has always been a serious impediment. There was never an "entire population" uniting or a "simple goal that others could get behind". It was always extremely difficult. It often looked hopeless. Many people were killed in the streets, and others were brave enough to replace them.

Overall I think feeling helpless in the face of monumental challenges is normal. But closing your eyes and telling yourself "nothing can ever change, so why bother" is self-soothing and pathetic.

Things can change, and you can be a part of that positive change if you put in real effort.

What are we gonna do, vote?

"If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal" - Emma Goldman

In the last 100 years, protest movements have given us women's suffrage, workers rights including the weekend and overtime pay, gay rights, civil rights, etc. History shows us that we can have positive change, but it's not as easy as just voting.

We can see right now how protest movements are moderating the Democrat's support of Israeli war crimes.

But don't you feel a responsibility to the rest of the world?

Say if, for example, your tax dollars were funding an ongoing genocide and starvation campaign, wouldnt you feel a bit responsible to change that?

Only 2 months until the US gets its emergency pier running. I'm sure those starving children can wait.

Prohibition creates a black market, which in turn creates cartels, violence, unregulated and sometimes tainted product, it eliminates tax revenue, bolsters an oppressive police force, etc etc.

I believe the best model to deal with these hard drugs is legalization with heavy regulation.

There have been a handful of good studies on the harms of drugs over the years, and they all published the same conclusion: The recreational drugs that are most harmful (both to society and to the user) are heroin, meth, and alcohol.

Just like heroin, alcohol is not gentle, nice, or not a big deal.

Why do you think one is socially encouraged and the other two are demonized?

The prohibition model was a failure for alchohol, and it's a failure for heroin and meth too.

...destroy everything that supports Hamas. Everything.

This is called "genocide". People with a sense of ethics oppose genocide.

Comparing innocent Palestinian children to 18th century slaveholders is a gross attempt at justifying genocide.

I'm not trying to say Jesus was a pacifist, but all of those quotes are Old Testament, written centuries before Jesus supposedly existed...

The document said several UNRWA Palestinian staffers had been detained by the Israeli army, and added that the ill-treatment and abuse they said they had experienced included severe physical beatings, waterboarding, and threats of harm to family members

So UN employees were abducted and tortured, then forced to repeat Israel's propaganda line, in an attempt to justify their whole genocidal endeavor.

Well it sounds like we agree on most things then, except on how to communicate to voters. I have found that being honest with voters about things like the corruption of the DNC and the serious flaws of the ACA actually helps to win them over.

Try to do a door knocking campaign and act like the Democratic Party is perfect, most voters will smell the bullshit.

It only takes a few seconds to say "yes most Democrats are corporate lackeys, but not this candidate, and here's why..." Acknowledging the flaws of the party does not suppress turnout. It is the flaws themselves that do the suppression.

My original intention here was to try to convince people to think critically when hearing a politician's stump speech, which I believe is adding value to the discourse.

I surely didn't have lofty goals to "improve the country or the Democratic Party" when I opened Lemmy today lol.

And I do believe the DNC and the donor class are a bunch of corporate goons who have little to offer, and almost all Democratic politicians are subservient to this superstructure.

Let me ask you, how do you suggest we overcome the institutional hurdles when running a progressive primary challenge? The last 2 progressive primary challengers I volunteered for had extreme problems finding vendors to supply them with the basic supplies that they need to run a campaign. This is because the DNC has a policy of blacklisting any vendors that work with a progressive primary challenger.

We can agree that Republicans are horrible and make everything worse, but how is that applicable in the case of the ACA?

The ACA got exactly 0 Republican votes. There was no reason to negotiate or even listen to Republicans in this case. It was Democrats doing it to themselves. And as I have already established, yes the ACA is a right wing bill.

As for advocating for progressive ideals, I am doing that when I call out the hypocrisy and corruption of the corporate Dems. It's becoming very difficult to tell the difference between a modern corporate Dem and a 90s-00s Republican, and that scares me.

I think it's a good thing to say "Democrats bad" when they are in fact bad. Whatever demons lurk on the other side of the aisle does not change this. Putting your fingers in your ears and yelling "vote blue no matter who" is not a solution.

Yes that is exactly my point, Dems had full control and they still passed a right wing healthcare plan.

In that 70 days they abandoned a public option and quickly adopted Romneycare. Then they added even more corporate subsidies and giveaways for health insurance companies.

I'm not sure about bots, but this is politics@world, Lemmy's home for BlueMAGA.

I wear my downvotes from here with pride.

There is no "both sides are equal" argument here, Republicans are obviously worse.

I agree that we should examine who is opposing tax raises for billionaires. And we agree Repubs are horrible, so just consider when Democrats had full control of Congress and the WH- what stopped them then?

Democrats can't pass economic populism, even when they have full control, due to their corporate donors, lobbyists, the DNC, etc. This Democratic establishment has prevented anything left-of-center from getting passed in my lifetime.

There is a huge difference between a sales pitch and a policy target, you seem to be confusing the two.

A sales pitch is just rhetoric and can often be disingenuous.

I see no reason to suggest that economic populism will become a serious part of the Biden policy agenda.