KillingTimeItself @ KillingTimeItself @lemmy.dbzer0.com

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to be clear, the wiki page you explicitly linked literally say it has a historical connotation, and the primary example it lists is from checks notes 53 years ago.

I'm going to hazard a guess that the sentiment has probably changed, a little bit. Since 1972. 1972 to be clear, was 8 years after the passing of the civil rights act. It's a bit of a different time period now.

anyway point is, i'm not convinced anybody cares about using this as a homophobic slur anymore.

Sorry for the short temper, this thread has been too long and I already explained this on another comment.

it's whatever, that's how the internet is lol. This thread has been more than amusing for me thus far.

yeah but then where penis?

and tesla is a private company that he owns? Elon in the government, and elon that runs tesla are two unrelated things.

Sure people are motivated against elon due to his political advancements, specifically those made INTO government.

But tesla is STILL a private company, that isn't even under the ownership of musk, it's a board of directors. At best this is property destruction and arson.

Otherwise you're arguing very quickly that ANY private entity is immediately therefore a protected subspecies of the US federal government, and any action taken against it, is by definition, terrorism.

intimate photos implies, sexting, which is, a crime, according to people here. So yes, the semantics do matter :)

If you’re nit picking the nuance ls of the type of private content shared without someone’s consent you’ve already lost.

that's my problem though, i can't tell you what it is. Was it bad for them to do that? Probably? Does my opinion of them change if it was harmless shitposting between friends, vs genuinely talking behind the backs of various people for no discernable reason. Yes. But we don't know that.

Unfortunately I am not god, and do not make the rules, so i cannot control what justice is and isn't done.

Yeah but the proportion of intensity also matters. The n word literally dates back to slavery. It makes sense that it would be a pretty offensive racial line to cross. Although i don't think it's fully strict, i think it's just mostly strict, you can find examples outside of it.

There's also the question of a slur being situationally relevant. For example, you could write out the n word in long form, specifically for the act of describing it, in a dictionary for instance. You would struggle to argue that it's a necessarily "racist" usage of the word.

For the same reason i would argue that "cocksucker" isn't necessarily a slur against gay people, for example, if you don't use it for the purposes of specifically slurring a gay person. Which also brings into question whether or not it is even a slur in the first place.

Of course there are also words like faggot for example, which are more directly linked to gay people, and being a slur specifically in that regard, it doesn't have much use outside of that. But even then people do still use it, primarily gay people. Some of us just think it's a funny word. (you can call me a faggot all you want i don't care, i just think you look silly lmao) though i would still explicitly denote the slurred usage of faggot.

And even if you were gay, that does not make you immune to internelized homophobia.

and this would be pretty fundamentally "schizo" like we're talking freudian psychology levels of psycho analysis and diagnosing here. There are certainly select cases where that could theoretically be possible, but i don't see that being worth more than interesting psychological banter. I mean realistically, it's meaningless in 99% of cases. There's going to be another more aggressive tell.

Just like there are plenty of black people who disagree with the usage of the word removed even if spoken by a black person, because it is still rooted in racism.

and you can be against the usage of it, for sure, but i think you'll have a hard time finding black people who police what other black people say. Just as you will in this case.

i suppose that's fair. But it's also an insult. They're not meant to be nice.

derek still did a shitty thing though. Regardless of how you look it.

wdym? The only reason people would do that is because they're unhappy with tesla, and how it's operating as a company. Given that musk is a figurehead in company, he's the only reason it's political.

Musk is just a shitty person, people don't like that, and are retaliating as they see fit.

yeah, it's definitely silly.

boobs are two, cuz two boobs.

Penis is three cuz balls, plus one.

yeah, it could be literally any flavor. It's hard to know form the context provided.

idk what to tell you anymore, i don't care about human life lmao.

You all ruined it for me by being so fucking stupid. Like i'm sorry, but how is a satirist supposed to live in a climate where everybody is just fucking stupid. The answer, inevitably, is benevolent disregard for human life, because clearly nobody cares about it enough to do anything about it.

weird that you mention sharing explicit photos, because that's something that didn't happen. If we're to believe OP, that is.

found the insecure person!

i mean, what way would be more accessible? Choking it? Slamming it's head against the ground? Shooting it? (not highly accessible or necessarily legal)

Finding a suitably big rock and delivering a suitably heavy blow is about the most efficient.

unsurprising really.

i doubt the war memes were that bad honestly. There's been a lot of shitposting about it general, it's just that most people haven't seen it because it's not particularly common. The real question is what their actual opinion is.

what's the political goal? Making tesla less popular? That doesn't sound very political to me.

literally nobody says vaginalicker though? that's just not the commonly understood variant of "cocksucker"

im sorry are we equating cocksucker, and the n word to be on the same level of offensive slur?