KillingTimeItself @ KillingTimeItself @lemmy.dbzer0.com

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or maybe i'm just gay and i think cocksucker is a funny insult, but no i must be homophobic, clearly that's the only option.

This shits just not that complicated bro, it's language, doesn't matter where an insult came from if it's use is broadly different in modern lexicon. Some fascinating psychoanalysis of random people on the internet.

that's also a fundamentally flawed argument though. Unless you're like actively raping someone, there's nothing inherently wrong with fucking a woman. That's why the implication of cocksucker and motherfucker matter, obviously someone fucks everyones mother, but it's the implication that people who are "motherfuckers" would fuck your mother just to be a problem.

i mean yeah, pussyfucker if you used as an insult would be quite a weird insult to throw, but it would work i suppose.

Motherfucker is also in the same vein like the other commenter suggested.

find me people who suck cock that actually give a fuck about other people calling people cocksuckers and we can talk.

And idk if I’d say it’s a power thing, cocksuckers are the active participant in a blow job, and I’d say the submissive one is the one with their meat between a pair of teeth.

nobody is arguing that sucking cock is submissive??? The argument is that being a cocksucker is a submissive thing.

Or you trolling? Or are you actually serious?

ok?

So what if i just argued that "cocksucker" just meant that you would suck someones cock if you got you something. I.E. you're easily bribed/manipulated. As far as i know, that's how most people use it.

That's literally the implication like 99% of the time. If you wanted to insult someone for being gay, you would just call them a faggot or something lmao. No need to mince words at that point.

derek also has every incentive to overplay it as well.

You don't need to overplay it to make your point though, that's the thing. Derek went out of his way to pretty much ruin this friend group.

idk i'd probably leave, and if anybody ever asked me about i'd say i didn't like it. If i saw concerning behavior i would probably de-associate from those specific people. Not grenade an entire friend group over it, that's extra.

It's not my place to manage friend group politics.

that's true, but judging by this thread people are also really sensitive about this kind of shit, so it wouldn't take very much for people to get pissed off like this.

yeah but half of those were previously recorded, the worst thing in that chat is probably the text messages from the one dude specifically. Maybe making fun of people behind their back? But it really depends on how that went down, could be primarily for venting it's hard to say without having concrete examples. So i'm giving the benefit of the doubt on that one.

yeah idk call me schizo all you want but i'm not huge on being friends with someone willing to drop everything to make me look the worst fucking person possible.

Derek did literally everything possible to cause fallout here, he really didn't need to go that far.

yeah, unlike you.

ah, i see you prefer age play, interesting.

How many students of yours do you normally fuck?

possibly, but that would be way too complicated for signage like this, it seems like this is actually just stall numbering inside of a gendered bathroom as per another post in the thread though.

TRUE

bro holy shit i just stated my opinion and i'm being nuremberg'd now lmao.

damn bro, that's crazy.

Unfortunately i will sleep well knowing that i don't engage in shitty behavior with people, and that i just simply do not care about shit like this that much.

do you recognize you’re doing olympic level mental gymnastics throughout these comments in order to make the people you identify with in the internet story the good guys or are you just incredibly dense and/or like fucking with people for kicks?

i don't like anybody here, all of these people sound like assholes, some of them stuck up their own asses, others a bit too unfiltered for their own good. But we also don't know the full extent of the conversation and fallout from this, so who knows what actually happened.

Regardless if derek wanted to make the point that these people weren't great, he didn't need to leak messages, especially not 5 year old ones. He put as much effort as possible into destroying this friend group, and i wouldn't be surprised if this is regular behavior from him. People like that use it to their advantage, only to fuck over people later in their lives by doing the same shit lmao.

Anybody willing to without permission leak shit like is asking for trouble, legally or not.

was the entire "secret" group chat dedicated to making fun of people though? That's the thing we don't know, it just seems like a fairly active, long running group chat, with a number of distasteful posts made over time.

that is true, but i think this is a definite "everybody sucks" type of post.

I'm also not sure that derek needed to leak this either, especially going back like 5 years, that's pretty unhinged. Even a "yeah i don't like those guys i joined the group chat and it was 💀" is going to be enough to clue most people in.

i'm not saying it is, but from what i understand women tend to have a more cohesive social group, and tend to talk about things between them a lot more, so it would reason that there is a larger chance of stuff like this breaking out into that conversation.

Men just don't really talk about their personal lives all that much. And when they do it's usually shitposting.

Speaking ill of someone not present to defend themselves is commonly in bad tastes, imo.

to be clear, i would generally agree with this, unless it's understand to be venting/not seriously considered. It might be weird in the latter half, but it's a lot less rude if it's an inside joke specifically among a group of people.

I don’t think it’s a gender specific issue based on the story being about guys doing this.

and to be fair, if we're going full gender difference analysis, i think guys are a lot more likely to have a group chat like this, than women, so there's that.

i mean i literally made that argument in my comment, but please, keep coping.