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Well, as Kallas says, it's to go after China next.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihQTS1RC50A

So, after that statement, I honestly can't imagine China having more clarity on supporting Russia.

China's just talking about stopping Russia. Which the EU keeps saying it's the top priority. They're willing to spend billions to do it. China's saying you can save all that money, totally your choice. It's easy for me.

Edit see we are talking about different clarity. Europe has none. China has all of it.

I'm clear. The EU talks about wanting to stop Russia, but doesn't actually work with the partner that can stop Russia. That's as clear as it gets.

That was a paper talking about history. That it started before Obama even. Though, as the wiki article states at a minimum it started with Obama. Also, why would Russia lose? The implied threat is your going to be facing down J20s if it gets bad enough.

At least since Obama.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Asian_foreign_policy_of_the_Barack_Obama_administration

Here's an EU based article saying that really it's been happening since Clinton.

https://ecpr.eu/Events/Event/PaperDetails/25139

Always as in before anyone currently in power was in power.

Now, China is just saying what your thinking. If EU isn't supporting USA on this, we can talk. Otherwise what do we gain from not keeping Russia afloat?

Edit btw the point of all of this is China is literally telling the EU how to stop the war. Turn on the US

No, you're not understanding what is being said here. The west has always declared China the opponent and they'll take China on when they finish their other conflicts like Russia. The EU has consistently asked China to stop Russia. China's just saying the quiet part out loud. Who in their right mind would help you after you constantly called me a threat and told me if Russia falls you're coming after me?

Edit for those down voting me, here's Kallas saying China is next, the person China is talking to in the article.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihQTS1RC50A

Yes, but the what in the goddamn fuck is spread through so many scientific fields.

Who: biology What: chemistry When: physics Where: geology, archeology Why? Philosophy

All these fields just because the universe exists. kind of beautiful if you ask me.

Naw, look at the dinosaurs and the ice age. Life evolves, life survives. The life forms we know of today are dead and who knows what life will look like in the future. Never forget water bears exist. Even if life needs to crawl back up from the ocean it will. The humans are definitely fucked.

That's the real problem in the end. We're really only able to survive In a fairly tight band of weather. So even small movements out of our band feels terrible to us. The unnerving truth is the planet is fine. Life on the planet is fine. It's survived much colder and much hotter. The humans on earth on the other hand...

I don't know what caused the ceasefire, I'm only saying they were able to and got the last volley in. Which made Israel vow revenge, but Israel still stopped. Who won? I don't know. But I am saying Iran didn't lose, which for such a weak military is a victory in and of itself.

I don't understand how people can be so ignorant. It's not just about Iran's losses, if the other side is degraded just as much, that's a victory for Iran. Israel's iron dome was degraded enough that at the end they only had 65% effectiveness. This allowed Iranian missiles to strike hospitals, their cheap drones were able to penetrate. In fact, it was Iran who launched the last volley to which Israel initially said they would retaliate but then backed off. Israel isn't even reporting casualty rates anymore because the numbers are too high. Do you really think those strikes happened because Iran was using expensive hypersonic missiles that they were never known to have had?

Everyone knows on paper Iran's military is older and weaker. And still they fought their way into a ceasefire in which they got to have the last volley.

Am I missing the joke here? Your God damn right I'm going to be up eating the delicious breakfast buffet when I'm on vacation. And your also right that I'm going to sleep until lunch on the weekends so I don't need to expend effort for breakfast. I literally can't see doing this any other way.

It's OK guys, don't forget the one assassination per guest rule. It's just like Modi. That's why Putin's not invited, too many assassinations.

I'm pretty sure that's what these places are. At the end of the article it says people are mostly there for collaboration and office space, but that some people are there for fake work. Whenever I see articles about China now, I have to question the validity of them. Are there people there for fake work? Clearly, but that's not what that office is for according to the article itself. And you'd have to ask the simple question, does that happen in other nations as well? Absolutely. But for some reason, news about China, they'll only admit that at the very end. Suspicious

It is isn't it? I actually talked about that further in the thread. What's up with that? I'm actually curious about it since well I'm not LGBTQ+ but I'm always interested in understanding more. It's strange to me that women would prefer lesbian porn films as well as queer films. It doesn't make sense to me, but statistically that's what we find. I'd love for someone to explain this to me.

Edit: Also yes, I can agree it doesn't show queer support, but it does show ambivalence. After all, it's the government censors that are letting it through, and they aren't LGBTQ+. So, they absolutely do not understand it's targeted at women.

Whooo boy that's a tough topic. So I'm sure what you're realizing is that LGBTQ+ issues in China isn't a government thing. The government doesn't care. The families though, oh god, I mean if we're going to say there's oppression in China, it's from the families. IF you're lucky and have a good family, great. If you're not, no one will help you.

So, of course your best bet is to find extended family that accepts you. This is how there's a thriving LGBTQ+ community in China. And leads to all the things I was talking about where grandparents over rule parents, but it can also be aunts or other family members. OR and importantly OR because of how guanxi works, you can also find groups of like minded friends who take you in and help you get past these things.

I'm not here to tell you it's a great system or it works well. Abuse IS a huge problem there. However, in the western mind it's all tied to an oppressive government, it's actually not. It's a deep cultural issue that is only recently coming to light, and frankly if I'm honest it will get buried just as quickly with a few more rights for people, such as gay civil unions. It's how China listens to the voice of the people. I know this is confusing, in the west people think of the voice of the people as a direct voice such as democracy. In China it's complicated. In a weird way, everyone in China is free to do whatever they want, as long as you have the guanxi to back it.

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I feel like I should add this has been the way the Chinese government has done things since imperial times. China isn't communist, a better way of looking at them is they've returned to imperial China. It's bad in many ways as you've noticed, parental abuse is an insanely huge problem there. On the other hand, it's how they handle the rich getting too rich. It doesn't matter how rich you are if you've destroyed all your guanxi, as Elon Musk is discovering.

Parent in this case means relative. It's an Asian societal thing, nothing can happen without an agreement with the family as the family unit is more important than the individual. This is actually a thing in Japan as well.

So, you might be thinking couldn't I just fake it. And the answer is yes and happens all the time. Here's a Times article on it. It's some what biased since it's an American paper, but it has the issues fairly correct. The problem is calling it the black market isn't exactly correct. It's usually forged documents pretending that you have family consent.

https://time.com/6261675/china-transgender-hormones-black-market/

Of course, if you actually are alone and have no family, then you don't need approval. However, that doesn't really happen in China as they find your relatives for you, it's actually what the police stations around the world are actually about. It's a way for overseas Chinese to find familial contacts so they can proceed with whatever documentation they want.

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Actually, hilariously if you get into a civil union with your boyfriend, they can act as consent for your trans gender therapy. So in that situation if you've already found a partner it's totally fine and everyone gets whatever they want. This is actually part of a way China promotes marriages in order to try to get that birth rate up. It just happens they don't have laws for gay people so it just default applies.

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If you're now also thinking couldn't they just get the grandparents to do it? The answer is also yes. In fact, like 50% of Chinese dramas are about literally this. The grandparents going over the parent's head and making decisions for their grandchildren. It's quite a big deal in China. And I'm not talking about LGBTQ+, it's literally every part of life. China isn't so much a nation of individuals as it's a nation of families and the families make all the decisions. It even leaks up to the political level. It's confusing, but it all makes more sense if you study Chinese culture. This is what guanxi is about. It's not exactly nepotism.

So good news on that, that's changing too. The courts find gender conversion therapy illegal, although there's no specific law against it. You can get gender affirming surgery as well as hormone therapy, though not all options. However, they do have a parental consent requirement. Though if you understand Chinese culture, that makes a lot more sense than if you do not. Like I said, with everything in China, not terrible, not great.

Uh, you can have a civil union in China if your gay. They also have tons of what they call boy love movies. Additionally, there's gay bars in every major city in China. In fact, Chengdu is known as the gay capital of China.

The issues are they do have are, you can't show kissing in those movies and they don't allow parades anymore. Also, no legal protections for discrimination, though all discrimination laws apply. So while you can't say they fired you because your gay, you still have protections that they can't randomly fire you without cause and being gay isn't a cause.

Here's an article about what I am talking about.

https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/family-relationships/article/3114633/lgbtq-people-china-picture-mixed-global-report-finds

Not terrible, also, not great. That kind of described China as a whole though so take that how you will.

Edit

Here's a list of boy love films if your interested.

https://trakt.tv/users/133dle/lists/rainbow-cn-china-boys-love-bl-gay?sort=released%2Casc

Surprisingly they're more popular with women as opposed to men. Not entirely sure why.

I'm a bit confused. Are you saying lots of Europeans are saying they stand with China besides the far right?