Nope, if you look at a previous comment of mine in this thread, you'd see I'm fine with 3rd party software as long as it's been approved by regulators. Same goes for Tesla's software - if it hasn't been approved by regulators prior to deployment on the streets, I'm against it.
I haven't followed it closely to know all the deets, but some action being taken is better than none. I'm not out here defending Tesla or current government policies. I do believe that if I have to pass a driving test to operate a vehicle, then whatever self-driving software is installed should do the same.
If you're trying to convince me that anyone should be able to take any random self driving software they found on the Internet, install it, and let it go wild on public streets, we're going to have to agree to disagree.
If it was a matter of installing software on a laptop or phone, I'd agree with you, but installing software on a vehicle that can run over people is another matter, disclaimer or not.
Just like some cars are street legal and some cars are not, some software should be street legal and some software not. If the 3rd party software has been cleared by regulators for your Tesla, I'd be fine with it.
Tesla is subject to some oversight by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. They recently forced a recall when they weren't satisfied with Tesla's software.
If a given instance wants to experiment with democracy, that’s awesome!
Agreed and that's what I'm suggesting lemmy.world do. They don't have to, but it'd be nice if they did, even informally. A simple, "Hey, what do y'all think?" would be nice, before they make a decision that significantly impacts our collective experience.
As for preemptively defederating from trolls, I can appreciate the argument, and if that was the only justification given, I wouldn't be so concerned. But the admins also cited political opinions that fly in the face of their own branding: a "generic" instance "for the entire world to use". Had they included "you must love the World Bank and IMF", I wouldn't have joined this instance in the first place, just like I didn't join beehaw. It's not that I hate those orgs, but I don't want to be in an echo chamber.
Fair, but that wasn't the only reason given for defederating. As I said, I'm not going to lose sleep over hexbear defederation in particular, but the way these decisions are made troubles me.
Again, I'd agree with you if it were seamless to move between instances. In fact, what you're suggesting is far superior to hoping an all-powerful admin would forever uphold ideals around a free and open internet, even when inconvenient. However, Lemmy isn't there yet.
This isn't about hexbear in particular. It's about how these decisions are made. But for the record, if hexbear users actually started trolling en masse, I'd be in favor of defederation.
So would anti-world bank/imf folks be able to share their outfits on !streetwear@lemmy.world if .world hosts the community but I moderate it from some other instance? I have my doubts, but I'm no expert on the fediverse. I want to see everyone's streetwear, not just from people of a particular political alignment.
Instead of pushing back against your opinion, I must confess what you said would work if there was a seamless way to move accounts and communities from one instance to another. Unfortunately that's currently not the case.
It's also worth noting that an instance itself can change philosophy. It seems .world is moving from generic Lemmy to pro-world bank/imf/NATO Lemmy. I'm not necessarily for or against any of that, but I signed up for a generic Lemmy, not an echo chamber.
Not harsh at all 🤝 I respect your perspective, but I stand by my comment. If we sign up for a job, we should do right by it. Also shameless plug: the community was r/streetwear and you can find us at !streetwear@lemmy.world
P.S. feel free to peruse my history on r/streetwear to judge if I was a lazy/crazy mod
If Lemmy starts to allow seamless migration of accounts across instances, this will become less of an issue. But I suspect creating multiple accounts isn't going to be palatable to most users.
Like, I know we’re not technically entitled to give our input if we’re not admins, but I think it would be nice, y’know?
Admins not bothering with users' thoughts or opinions is what brought us here from Reddit. I wish they would poll us, even informally, before making these kinds of decisions.
Nope, if you look at a previous comment of mine in this thread, you'd see I'm fine with 3rd party software as long as it's been approved by regulators. Same goes for Tesla's software - if it hasn't been approved by regulators prior to deployment on the streets, I'm against it.