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  • Cowbee is mostly correct so I'm not going to address everything but there are 2 pieces I want to respond to.

    Greed is rewarded in every economy.

    That doesn't seem to be true. Like an economy that doesn't funnel money into individuals. Or even moneyless economies like Library or Gift. (Though moneyless economies imply we're achieving actual communism, going beyond socialism)

    No, socialist systems like free housing, healthcare, education can exist alongside capitalism. Worker owned systems like cooperatives still operate in a market.

    Are you talking about free housing (etc) programs being managed as a cooperative, alongside a commodities market of cooperatives? If yes, that's not capitalism, that's socialism. If no, then you must be talking about a welfare state like what's in Scandinavia, which isn't socialist.

    Kind of relevant to both points, there are a few different schools of socialism so you could see if any make more sense to you.

  • First, don't point your finger at capitalism as the problem.

    You already lost me

    Second, acknowledge & understand greed and how it is inherent in all human nature.

    I would rather acknowledge and encourage humans inherent nature to cooperate and grow together.

    Third, build systems that minimize the damage done by individual or corporate greed.

    Like building an economy that doesn't inherently reward greed? I wonder what that would look like.

    Check against consolidation, monopolization, and short term Wall St like thinking of endless growth.

    These things exist because of capitalism

    Four, make sure socialist programs exist to support everyone

    That's social welfare. Being socialist means the workers own the means of production

    capitalism is not the only way to live, it's optional

    It's so easy to live in the USA and just not do capitalism /s

    the European nations seem to be doing things quite alright

    Do you understand that their wealth was pillaged from the global south?

    Can you give me a description of what makes socialism bad solely based on how it works (not referencing any country who may have attempted it)?

  • I can't look at NK because the world capitalist economy isolated them, so I'm not going to argue about their material conditions. I don't think anyone is immune to greed, but I think having a system that rewards greed is going to turn it from an aberration to an epidemic.

    To your first point, let's pretend you're right and look at it in the abstract. What is to be done? Do you want to kill greed? How would you do that?

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  • I was trying to remember what it means to be indicted by a grand jury

    In a grand jury, they are simply determining whether there is enough evidence to even seek a trial in the first place and to bring these charges on behalf of the people. Because of that, the standard is much lower. The standard is probable cause

    Also it just requires a simple majority

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  • The large majority of resources and facilities are owned by a small minority of wealthy individuals whose only goal is making money. People with more interest and passion in the field in question would continue to innovate as long as they had the resources to do so.

  • Yes and no. You're right in that the dictionary definition of tourism is basically just visiting another place, no matter what you're doing. And your second sentence I was definitely trying to allude to. But colloquially, (and maybe this is just my experience) we talk about touristy things to do and touristy attractions and tourist season and building economies around tourism. It really feels like tourism is something that is outside invading into a community and often either setting aside or commodifying the culture of the destination. Maybe there's a different word that I can't think of that would be more accurate to use instead of tourism, but I don't think I'm using it in a way that's contradictory to how I usually hear the word used. I also say all this as someone from and living in an area that attracts a lot of tourists.

  • Yeah, I'm not sure there is an ethical tourism. Being a tourist means being an outside viewer of another culture. Even without the financial and environmental costs, it's still treating these people and places like zoo attractions. Of course I don't think it's unethical to travel and experience a culture different than your own, I don't even think I'm against the idea of vacation. I just think that you have to be willing to be immersed in where you're visiting. Not keeping it at arms length and behind a lens, but where it has the ability to change you and teach you something real.

  • I think it's important to note that this will kill a great many small businesses.

    Larger companies have a larger supply in giant warehouses. Small businesses order smaller quantities more often. They get fucked sooner with the costs going up. If a customer wants to support that small business they sometimes would have to pay twice what they could get it for from a larger company. This is a deep consolidation of wealth.

  • No, it's not wrong. But you're not allowed to take truly replenishing time off in this capitalist system. It's not just unfair, it's unsustainable and it's on the way to collapsing. Hopefully we can create a better system in the rubble. Until then, don't let it break you.