HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided] @ HumanBehaviorByBjork @hexbear.net

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I don't think census data compiled and verified by the UN DESA is Pravda, a publication which does not exist anymore. I quite like Wikipedia and I think it's a very good way to get a quick introductory understanding of a topic which you've just learned about. In this case it prints a similar graph citing the same data, so I don't know why you would mention it to support your strange argument that China's life expectancy has not significantly improved under communism.

It's not even that outrageous a thing to believe, but you demand that I presume it false because believing that China is a normal country opens the door to believing a whole bunch of other scary things.

let's skip to the end of the discussion: I say "that's not anything like what I said." you say "yes but you believe those statistics are true???" I say "do you have any good evidence that they're fabricated, and that the life expectancy in China is actually still hovering around 40?" you beg the question, possibly implying that Chinese people are inherently untrustworthy, and accuse me of supporting genocide. There is nothing I can say to you that will instill an ounce of critical thinking ability in you.

yeah, exactly. which raises the question of why china specifically infuriates certain people to the exclusion of all other discussion.

No one in China is over 50. If you're over 50 in China they just shoot you, and then they lie and say they didn't.

My god he can't read a graph. How has our educational system been allowed to fail for this long?

I'm not committed at all to China as the salvation of the communist project, but it's exactly this sort of self-imposed illiteracy and ignorance, and nearly religious faith in the inferiority and duplicity of The Orient that makes me default to distrusting anything negative a cracker says about it.

But I hate the United States

easy solution: your definition of tankie shit is so incredibly broad that it includes anything to the left of the US Democratic party

I know right? It's like, I don't think nonwhites are inferior, but I also don't think free markets are a viable means to solve the social evils of bigotry, war, and environmental devastation. If only there was a political camp for me!

The debate isn't about this.

You're right. It's about whether nonbinary people and trans people in general deserve rights and social validation. Which they do. End of discussion.

we're unhinged, but I don't know what a "commienazi" is supposed to be. kind of sounds like a contradiction.

personally i want to kiss the liberals with tongue, while they call me a tankie

rules-light RPGs are pretty cool to be honest.

does the airport have a bookstore? maybe a paper book?

Not really funny

The point of the Iraq lie isn't simply a redirection that "the US also does it." it's that the empire is capable of widescale deception to manufacture consent when the need arises. you may have realized it was a crock, but enough people were fooled the wholesale destruction of multiple sovereign nations went off without a hitch. "Bush lied, people died" only became the majority opinion after they had gotten away with it. Even now the popular consensus is that "mistakes were made," not that there was a wilful deception for the sake of expanding US global military hegemony.

this is funny as fuck but we are so getting defederated lol

man it really has just been the same discussion since SRS, huh? racist guy says something racist, gets called racist, throws a fit about "politics."