GeneralVincent @ GeneralVincent @lemmy.world

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I think the loss of life, including the oceangate thing, is sad.

I also think the obscenely rich are actively devaluing their own life through their greed, versus this case where people are born into this situation. Some have a kinda 'got what they deserve' attitude for the first (also this community doesn't always agree on how radical it is haha)

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Yes, they are currently being beaten and killed. Not locked up due to their identity, but it would be actually mind boggling if Trump getting elected was the single thing needed for that to happen.

Yes it could get worse, but everyone gets into a frenzy over a single election every four years and acts like that's the deciding factor for how it will be for the next four years. Everyone should be working together to fix the systemic issues that allows trump to radicalize the right. Focusing on the the cause of the infection, like ranked choice voting, removing the electoral college, better education. Spread those ideas in your community, demand your local representatives push for it in the government, and fight the divisive attitudes.

That's my issue with the Democrats talking points, it's divisive and encourages radicalizing people as much as the Republicans. Because in a two party system, both parties benefit from radicalizing their group against each other. And I am absolutely not saying we tolerate intolerance from the right, but I'm saying there are better ways to fight it than voting for Biden who benefits from the "vote for me or else the bad guys win". There's no accountability, like when he supports a country that's killing thousands of innocent people.

What a fascinating conspiracy theory. Interesting that you specify ngo, government agency, and government projects. Also interesting that you call it "woke/gender/diversity". If you don't mind me asking, where did you hear of this concept originally?

Looking at their account, I'd honestly bet money that they're an apple employee. Half of their posts and comments are about, and very much in favor of, Apple

Right, exactly. He could be worth billions if he wanted to, but he quit Apple early on. He still has shares of Apple which means he is worth that much, but he's also given shares away to other Apple employees just because he believed they deserved them more. He does profit off slave labor in China, but my argument was that it's not any more than the rest of us. Basically everyone participating in capitalism will benefit from its worst parts, but Steve Woz is not the poster child for capitalism, greed, or slave labor.

Oh dang, it is. I actually haven't watched planet of the apes tbh

Woz doesn't profit from slave labor in China any more than any of us since he hasn't actually worked for Apple since like 1985. Since then, he's started a number of other companies doing a bunch of other stuff, like cleaning space junk most recently

Horror movie idea, this concept but when the second humans arrive, they find the human civilization that got there first was wiped out before they got there and they don't know why.

I didn't say how much I watch fox news. Because I don't watch it. Why do you ask pointless questions?

I mean... yeah. Are you not? I don't usually hear people on the left call others too sensitive in that way. That's pretty much verbatim what you hear on Fox News five times a day every day

But that's the thing, I'm not sharing a sexuality with him. Someone made him look like a gay stereotype because he hates people like me.

And the whole point is the picture IS to associate him with the LGBT+ community, in an ironic way, to piss him off.

If he made being blonde illegal and threw blondes in jail, that would be a fair analogy. But he didn't, so that's a terrible analogy. I mean, there are people that discriminate based on appearance and they're called racists. So if this was a picture of Trump but photoshopped to look stereotypically Chinese, maybe that would be more of an equivalent analogy

I really appreciate that. I know it's not the most popular opinion and it really isn't a big deal, but I'm honestly surprised by the response here. I've been losing hope that this was a good place for open discussions, but maybe I just need a break from social media in general lol

Competition between coworkers?

-_-

damn you got some long arms, never seen a reach like that before.

This conversation is spiraling. I'm not going to argue with someone who misrepresents my intentions or character. Or someone who blindly defends Israel despite obvious issues with its leadership. We could go in circles forever with your increasingly conspiratorial assumptions and accusations. I'm just gonna end it here before you sprain an ankle jumping to conclusions.

What?? That's the weirdest way to twist my words I've seen. Please, make fun of him. I don't tolerate his bigotry.

I'm saying there are good ways and bad ways to make fun of him. Some people, including me, think this isn't the best way to do it. Some people think it is. But yeah, maybe this place isn't for me. It's becoming too much like reddit imo

God damn. You want full crazy.

Here you go

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

I criticize Israel. Not the Jewish as a whole. I'll criticize any country that commits genocide.

By the way, by arguing with me (a gay person) that makes you homophobic. Does that seem silly? It's the same argument you just spent 5 paragraphs trying to make. Get a grip

And there it is. I knew someone would say that. If you see me as a crying offended sjw with thin skin, then there's no point in having this conversation. I laid out my differing perspective without being harsh or judgemental, all while feeling no offense.

Personally I'm tired of the right wing talking points that dismiss any different perspective as weak. I'm tired of communities like Lemmy becoming more divisive, with users seeing each other as enemies and not giving others the benefit of the doubt. I'm tired of typing out long comments that I put thought into, hoping people will respond like decent humans, and getting brain dead insults and defensive arguments.

I'll make a deal with you, I'll grow thicker skin if you grow some empathy.

Yeah I can see how that's funny. And I get the irony of the picture. I personally think it's not in good taste, but I'm not trying to yuck anyone's yum or cancel someone's humor. Just explain why some of us don't like it and try to understand why so many people downvoted the original person who disagreed.

It really seems to be getting more divisive and less welcoming on Lemmy the longer I'm here

It's not illegal to be a man anywhere in the world. There's a deep sense of community with lgbt+ because it is, and has been, a struggle for most gay people. So when someone takes a photo of the very person who is discriminating against our community and makes it look like he's a part of the community, it can hit a sore spot with some people.

Again, I'm not trying to tell people to stop and I get that some people see it differently. But every time I've seen someone post that image, someone will say how that image can be interpreted as being gay is a joke, or that saying someone is gay when they're not is bad form. And everyone dog piles and mocks them or calls them sensitive, etc. I'm mostly disappointed that it's the same here and most people don't care to hear a different perspective