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  • I typically have to stick with actual articles because I just can't stand hearing anchors randomly speculate and interject their opinions. I want facts reported, not to hear your free flow of thoughts I don't care about...

    Watching some of The Hill Rising coverage of UAP stuff just about gave me an aneurysm... Just idiots baselessly blabbering on...

  • What you said wrong was provide a false equivalent.

    Protecting users from toxic instances is not a bad thing, and is not counterintuitive to producing a healthy and diverse fediverse.

    Whereas lemmy.world allows criticism of all governments and governing styles. The only anti-free speech instance in this discussion is hexbear.

  • Their instance encourages vote brigading and content manipulation tactics. One of the real reasons for the defederation, unlike all of the strawmen or red herrings they're peddling here.

  • Nah, I'm very left-leaning and will stick with lemmy.world, which allows criticism of communism (unlike hexbear) while also allowing for criticism against capitalism.

    If hexbear was really about free speech, then they would allow criticism of communism in their instance. Their content manipulation tactics like vote brigading are a good reason to defederate as well.

    Lemmy.world defederated from them due to their open statement of intent to engage in toxic, rule-breaking practices. Hexbear is poised to be a giant echo-chamer and then you criticize lemmy.world of being an instance with strict ideological fixation and enforcement? It's so hypocritical. It's just projection.

    No one is stopping open discussion on lemmy.world. Just protecting users from an instance with bad intentions/restrictive narratives/perspectives.

  • Hexbear stated explicitly their intent to [allow only specific narratives (explicitly anti-free speech), they openly stated their intention to engage in content manipulation tactics and pushing propoganda, and they have a delusional take on russia's aggression and atrocities.

    You all talk about this decision being against free speech when hexbear doesn't even permit it! So hypocritical... Even if most users on hexbear have good intentions, it doesn't justify the nefarious means that they openly plan to engage in. If hexbear wants open discussion, then they would permit topic criticism of communism; not suppress dissenting information/discussion.

    I don't care if it's left, right, independent, apolitical... Instances like this create echo-chamers which leads to extreme views and unhealthy communities. They shouldn't be given an audience to try to gaslight and astroturf. And if you don't like this decision to defederate, you can join another instance.

    Saying lemmy.world is anti-free speech for this is a joke. Lemmy.world doesn't have rules disallowing criticism of governing styles or specific governments. Hexbear does... If you all want to criticize NATO and capitalism on lemmy.world, go for it! That discussion is healthy. An instance like hexbear which only allows specific narratives and encourages nefarious practices is not a healthy instance...

  • This is entirely reasonable to me. I don't believe there is any good reason to federate with instances that are intending to astroturf, censore dissenting information, and peddle propoganda. You can see their vote brigading in a post on c/fediverse discussing this situation.

    Federating with such instances does more harm than good, providing an audience for propoganda aimed at fomenting extreme perspectives thru deviant misinformation and content/narrative control.

    Creating those kind of fringe echo-chamer instances is how we end up with toxic and extreme groups like SRS and incels or the donald (on reddit). They can even start out as satire and then quickly devolve into toxic hate.

    The argument that we want a diverse fediverse doesn't mean that we should federate with toxic instances with bad intentions. That's not the kind of diversity that we should be promoting. That's the kind of toxic userbase that should be quarantined...

  • There's no hypocrisy in what I said. I don't support creating echo-chamers thru censoring discussion.

    It's not hypocritical to say I don't agree with federating with instances which construct/enforce specific narratives/propoganda that others are exposed to.

    That's like saying you can't support free speech and not be okay with libel or false rape accusations. Bullshit.

    Whether I agree with the narrative or not, forced narratives and censoring dissenting discussion is bad for communities and breeds extremism and echo-chamers.

  • Their first rule is that you can't criticize communism... I'm totally in support of defederating with every instance that is poised to become toxic echo-chamers, which censore reality and open discussion in order to peddle misinformation and propoganda...

    Those cesspits should be isolated to fester instead of rotting other people's brains with their propoganda and censorship. Good riddance.

  • I'm sure the attacks are just as annoying for you guys as they are to us, if not more. Appreciate the update.

    Edit: Loving the endless scroll for the front page! I've been eagerly awaiting that. Such a small change, but such a big impact.