FourPacketsOfPeanuts @ FourPacketsOfPeanuts @lemmy.world

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A lot of market speculation is based on forecast profit. If new info = lower profits that means exit your position asap.

It is not that interesting to take a single prediction of a totalitarian leader controlling commerce (there have been many) and play games with the number 666 while ignoring that earliest manuscripts had 616 and the beast is mortally wounded / crowned with ten crowns / originates from the sea / persecutes Christians etc etc none of which applies to Trump..

"Babylon" in revelation has some similarities to New York and Trump has connections there. The arrogance / grandstanding too. The full picture painted is more interesting, personally, than wading into numerology.

I think people just latch on to 666 because it's mysterious (it has a first century meaning, so is literally 'meaningless' - and all its numerology - as far as a modern day fulfillment goes).

Trump has enough similarities with the anti-christ/beast without having to resort to silly numerology..

Probably because many pop science articles will mention that the background radiation of the universe is at about 2-3 degrees above absolute zero. Plus things like the night side of mars being freezing, pluto being a frozen rock, comets being made of ice etc...

Just give a number out of ten.

Russia starts sabotaging undersea infrastructure... Russia spy ship "catches fire"... Totally unrelated.

Arab States

hmm..

If order is to be maintained then illegal entry cannot be perceived to be a route to citizenship (even via a prison sentence).

No, I don't - how many?

I meant 'America' does it in the sense of both employers taking advantage of it and politicians finding it expedient to generally ignore it. It was an arrangement of convenience.

I'm trying to formulae what moderate politicians were supposed to do to head off the disastrous lurch to the right now underway.

Clearly ignoring a porous border and illegal work is not an option. But this was obvious decades ago. It is moderate politicians unwillingness to grasp the nettle and either i) introduce an unpopular low skill work visa and crack down on illegal employment for the sake of the worker or ii) head off growing alarm at what feels to be a lack of security at the border by diverting more funds to patrolling it while enabling better processes for people to enter through legal means

They wouldn't do either of these options. So now a portion of the population who might have been more moderate in a different universe have now been cajoled by demogogues into believing Trump type rhetoric and bluster is the only thing remotely addressing their concerns.

How did America get itself into such a mess where it depends so much on the labour of illegal entrants to the country? If they are needed then create a new work visa type for particular industries and then everyone can live in the light of day. If they're not needed, then deporting them is the right thing to do. For what seems like an absurd amount of time America has been content to overlook illegal entry because it knows it economically benefits from it. But this is a daft way to approach security and citizen rights in general. It will antagonise increasing amounts of people and result in the kind of political disaster we're now witnessing..

The bar for ignoring the democratic wish of the people should be set as high as possible. I would (personally) count the popular demand for state backed robbery and murder of its own citizens based on ethnicity to be above that high bar. On the other hand, simply declining to have more people come into the country from outside is nowhere near the same thing.

and most often than not get exploited

They get exploited because the capitalist class prey on their vulnerability, and the political class is largely complacent about this because the want economic growth at any cost.

Poorly managed immigration is the product of globalists seeking to move labour wherever they can most easily exploit it with little care for how working class families feel about it.

Moderate political parties of all kind and in many countries in Europe have refused to talk honestly about this state of affairs. It has disillusioned a great deal of the populations who don't care for botched immigration plans and feel marginalised from political processes. It seems you can't even suggest maybe there should be less immigration without someone else feverishly dressing that up in hyperbole. (Notwithstanding that, obviously, that is also a view that racists and Nazis have. But simply having the view itself doesn't automatically sign one up to the rest of their horrid beliefs)

If immigration were reduced then certain jobs would either go undone or employers would have to bid higher to buy labour from the local market. Budget problems that that may cause simply highlight the monopoly of assets by the 1% that governments have enabled and should do something about.

Fundamentalists: "As it says in GOD'S WORD"

God's Word: "if a foetus is fully formed treat it like a person, if it's not, don't"

Fundamentalists: "wait.. what"

This is what moderate parties need to do to stop the situation getting worse. A large amount of people dislike immigration. Just ignoring that doesn't work.

The whole thing seems incredible.

How is "oh it was epilepsy" a defence when you've never had an epileptic fit before? No history of it.

You've all seen a million YouTube videos of someone panicking and hitting the accelerator when they meant the brake. Unfortunately far far more likely than "invisible epilepsy".

I can't believe they didn't charge her (first time round).

She was probably haring it along Camp Road (as well-to-do Chelsea tractor types are known to do). And completely fails to take the right hand bend properly. This leads directly into the school playground.

Or, by some miracle, are we to believe that, of all the moments for it to happen, InViSiBlE ePiLePsY struck at the exact point where someone driving too fast might lose control?

Pls.. shame on the CPS..

Edit: if this is a defence that works then EVERY TRAFFIC DEATH where someone wasn't paying attention could be defended on exactly the same terms. "It was mysterious epilepsy". Crown prosecution: "well.... can't prove it wasn't. Guess there's nothing for us to do here". ffs... it's nonsense. Does she know someone influential or something..

The thinktank have since moved on to their next study: "The defecation habits of ursidae in arboreal contexts"

There are a great many films, songs, theatre productions and works of art over the decades that one could call "pointless antagonism". Especially against religion and claims of power.

I'm not saying burning a Qur'an is "art". I'm saying doing it is a health check on liberalism vs insipid religious privilege.

I don't think antagonism is useful for its own sake in general, but specifically in the face of an ideology that would seek totalitarian control? Yes very much so.

We routinely enjoy productions from Hollywood and the like where the megalomaniac bad guy's organisation is blown up and burned up the ground. Though no-one would ever get specifically offended by this. But it is what we like to do as a liberal society (the West as a whole). We burn and destroy pretenders to the throne and systems that want to enslave us. (Even capitalism see Fight Club etc etc)

That's why I didn't mean to single out Islam. I think religious fascism (or totalitarianism) in all its forms should be lampooned and figuratively (or literally) burned on a regular basis. I think being offensive to fascism is a vital part of speaking freely.

My caveat is that it should be easily avoidable by those who don't want to see it. Staging a blasphemous Christian play at an art festival? Go for it. Projecting it on the wall of a church? No thanks. Burning a Qur'an in your own yard with friends and videoing it? Go for it. Outside a mosque? No thanks.

Yes, it's a general feature though I've rarely come across evangelical groups that go as far as to make public proclamations of their predictions like Jehovah's witnesses did (some do, no doubt)

Amusingly it seems the JWs might have only survived because around 1886 it accidentally predicted 1914 would be the end of the world and the beginning of the favouring of the Jews (WWI and II culminated in the re-founding of Israel)

They re-engineered the text of the prophecy to better match the outbreak of world war (unsurprisingly). But that, together with the founding of Israel in 1948 are things they still point back to as "proofs"

If you look at my other comment, I'm not interested in destroying information, or preventing people from reading it. It's specifically doing something that other people think they have the right to stop me from doing. And as such it serves to highlight those who are hiding the fact that they have a fascist mindset towards me and others.

To make this clearer, maybe the day after "burn a Qur'an day" should be "read the Qur'an day".

I wouldn't see any contradiction in that