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Sorry, if I came off as too agro, I really hate nihilism.

It wouldn't be entirely true to say I don't do boycotts because I'm busy doing other things, a more accurate reason would be twofold:

1. Consumer boycotts are notoriously ineffective and almost never have any results.
2. Morally it's only harm reduction, you aren't doing good, but avoiding doing something bad, on a scale where the reduction is insignificant.

Even if the stars aligned I probably wouldn't do boycotts for those reasons, I prefer actions that bring about good results if I choose to do something.

I wish cooperative businesses were common here and I would like to work for one which is why I'm in a group that advocates for them, it's not a moral question, same with the other stuff. It also can and has had a real world effect(We helped push free public transit through) while consumer boycotts almost never do which is why morality doesn't play a part in my buying decisions. I'd like to focus on things that can help more than just make me feel good.

Also nihilism is fucking retarded, I'm not sure why you are attributing that to me. It's the 14y olds philosophy that just wants to be edgy.

Is there a reason they had a gun loaded with actual bullets or even actual bullets on the set? Isn't like everything in movies done with blanks?

I'm pretty sure that if she had the power to do so she would have deathsquads going after anyone remotely suspected of being trans. I was in her telegram group just to watch the crazy unfold and she is absolutely batshit and hates trans people with a burning passion.

Oh yea Empress may be the most transphobic person alive currently

Did I ever claim regular busses are faster? They are better because more people can use them, thus lowering the amount of cars on the road which reduces pollution more while not losing much or any utility for kids getting to school.

You seem weirdly upset with the off-hand comment I made that a 8 hour commute every work day would be child abuse. I'm not sure if long commutes cured your cancer or something but chill.

Yea, you do that buddy.

Public transit would still be the superior choice to school busses.

Not sure why you hold my opinion on that in such high regard as it doesn't matter but I would say the commute by bus shouldn't be over an hour one way and the walk to the bus station shouldn't be longer than 30 minutes. That would be my ideal at least if I was making any rules.

The same amount a school bus or a regular bus needs to get you to school.

It's child abuse to make your kid spend 8 hours of their day every work day on a bus. If you live in the ass end of nowhere find a better way to educate your kids, it's the price you pay for living away from civilization, like if I choose to live on top of a mountain I won't be expecting the postal service to climb 3 million steps to get to me.

If your kid needs 8 hours per day of commuting that should be some form of child abuse, school bus or no.

Here school is canceled for -20C for under 9th grade and -25C for higher in rural areas, that seems like a fair policy. Though I have walked to school at -25C in 3th grade I think and back because I didnt check the temperature, and that was walking about 40 minutes one way. It was fine, you just need proper clothing and if you live in these cold regions you know that.

If you live like 4 hours from the nearest settlement then you're fucked either way, school bus or not but those people are in the vast minority everywhere in the world. Walking distance is around 30 minutes on foot in my opinion. Busses work on gravel road, the road in front of my parents house was gravel until recently.

Stick a bus stop somewhere in walking distance and run that route based on need. Like my parents live on a farm about 6km out of town and there's a bus stop right near the house that bus goes twice per day and adults can ride it too.

It's 2 decades old so I hope the US has gotten better busses in the meantime because modern busses don't have this issue:

"The study showed that a child riding inside a diesel school bus may be exposed to as much as 4 times the level of diesel exhaust as someone riding in a car ahead of it."

The level of harm in that study was around 30 potential extra cases of cancer per million kids, that is fairly low considering the harm added by just general exhaust fumes for those living near busy roads. Even the study itself shows that living near a road frequented by trucks is more harmful.

So my suggestion of just get public transit would be better remains mostly resolute, I would just add that use trains for cargo and not trucks.

I'm not saying it's not morally good, that's not what no ethical consumption under capitalism means. It means there's no way around doing infinitely more harm by living than the harm you do by watching any media.

Also the analogy works better if by buying groceries you are supporting the creation of like 1000 snuff films a minute but you sometimes watch a movie directed by a sexist asshole. Sure, you can stop watching the movies but morally it's a drop in an ocean of wrong.

Enough to be harmful. Humans get exposed to dangerous things every single day, even if you don't leave the house, it's just in a quantity to not effect you during a human lifespan.

Are you saying school busses in the US are like a fog rolling into town or something? Because I'm having a hard time picturing how kids can have enough exposure to diesel fumes the way you described it works or how petrol fumes aren't an even bigger issue since they are waiting near a car road. Also having regular busses would reduce petrol and diesel fumes they breath in while waiting anyways if it works the way you describe.

Yea, my whole point is that stick a bunch of bus lanes there instead of having a separate 2 times a day bus for children.

There's nothing I can do unless I want to become a hunter gatherer. For example if I want to boycott companies that profit from and enable slavery I would need a lot of research time and more money just for basic groceries which I don't have, that alone brings infinitely more harm to the world than watching content made by some asshat. It's the phenomenon of no ethical consumption under capitalism.

I do things though as in I'm a member of a local anarchist group and we do political work for candidates that are willing to push our ideas. A lot of that is support for affordable locally sourced food and clothes as well as cooperative business models. I see that as having much more impact than any boycott which are usually useless.

How? My country is like high enough on the map to be on the same line as central Canada and we get like a week or two of -25C or more plus some random cold snaps.

Also that's completely beside the point since my whole point was to have normal bus lanes instead of a school bus.