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  • @ViskioNetaKafo I assume it's big data corpus linguistics; each word/phrase is assigned an identifier and then compared to the corpora the LLM holds to see what words are commonly grouped. Linguists have used corpora for decades to quantitatively analyse language; here are some open ones https://www.english-corpora.org/ - the LLM I assume identifies the likely lang "type" to choose a good corpus, identifies question tags & words in key positions, finds common response structures and starts building.

  • @barneypiccolo @Bamboodpanda really gives you confidence that they all know what they're doing in the databases to make sure "everything's computer" in the federal agencies

  • @dogslayeggs I know you were only talking about cars. My point is you can't only think about cars because there are too many other factors, including drivers of other cars who don't know whether or not they can go if the other "driver" doesn't indicate whether they've seen them or not. It's not about "banning people for not waving", it's that if someone doesn't let the other person through, nobody moves. The endpoint will be everyone hating Waymos and always going first.

  • @dogslayeggs this is not a good solution unless you're expecting to mandate that all pedestrians, cyclists, scooter riders, guide dogs, whatever, wear them too, and that all existing cars are retrofitted with them. Kind of dystopian.

  • @Aux I'd call it "predictably unpredictable"! Plus the "cyclist swerving round a pothole" roulette.

  • @ripcord unpredictable but maybe not standard practice? Just a guess, could be a bad assumption! British driving culture is reliant on eye contact and waves and nods and flashes - you have to signal if you're giving way (to other drivers as well), and say thank you; lots of places where there's only room for one vehicle on a two way road and someone has to decide who's going. Might be my failure of imagination but I don't know how that works with no driver.

  • @SippyCup I have never heard a single good thing from anyone who works with or for them.

  • @MoreFPSmorebetter it's not called jaywalking here, it's just called crossing the road, and there are plenty of places where if it's busy if you just kind of wait hopefully someone will wave you across. Or you look for a big enough gap that you can't make it all the way across but a driver will see you and have to slow. We also have zebra crossings which you just wait next to and drivers have to stop; up to the driver to interpret if someone is just standing around or waiting to cross.

  • @MoreFPSmorebetter @vegeta I just can't see this type of tech working in places with a more pedestrian-first culture / more unpredictable human behaviour, i.e. countries without jaywalking laws. If you tried to drive this through London and people realised it will just have to automatically stop for you (and also won't stop for you out of politeness if you wait hopefully) then everyone will just walk in front of it. What's the plan, special "don't stop the Waymo" laws?

  • @drmoose dunno, we have a strong tradition of petty bureaucratic jobsworths who take rule-following too far, and also a nasty history of over-policing protests.

  • @drmoose it was discussed in the 00s (in the UK!) but was massively polarising and got dropped. People didn't like the idea of having to carry something that proved who they are.

  • @drmoose @prole The UK only just brought it in a few years ago, against the advice of the Elec Commission as we don't really have any fraud and we don't have universal ID cards so it's complicated to know what you'd need to bring. Mostly it's passports or driving licences which relies on people having the cash to drive or travel, and their name matching the voter roll. If someone is turned away for not having ID they might not come back.

  • @meco03211 @Jayk0b cars can't either - it's a false premise. Not everything is drive-thru. How far is, say, the bakery section from your car when you go to the supermarket?

  • @octopusink yes I think we will eventually learn (there is clearly a lot of pushback against the idea that AI is a positive marketing term), and it's also definitely the fault of marketing, to try to condition us into thinking we desperately need a sentient computer to help us instead of knowing good search terms. I am deeply uncomfortable with how people are using LLMs as a search engine or a future prediction machine.