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  • On top of that, you can add that there is no advantage to getting a candidate from California. This is why I never understood Harris as the VP pick. Ideally, you get someone from a swing state like Whitmer.

  • Cool strawman you're beating up. I think the majority of us that didn't want Biden is because he didn't have a good path to victory. We didn't want to just stand by and watch the train wreck happen. Harris isn't much better, but at least she is better, and I will be on board with that of that's who is chosen. I would rather see Whitmer be on the top of the ticket though.

  • Fair point about not watching the debate because Trump pisses you off. I did watch the debate live. It's not hyperbole, Biden was that bad. It felt like watching Biden lose the race in real time. He couldn't form complete thoughts. I know he is normally a gaf machine, but this was different. It wasn't struggling to find the right word, it was struggling to find a thought. It honestly reminded me of when my Grandma was struggling with brain cancer and how she struggled to speak. It was excruciating to watch because I've liked what he had done as president. Him staying in would have ruined his legacy and potentially undone everything he has fought for if Trump beat him.

  • I mean, ultimately, I'm voting for whoever the democrats put on the ticket for that very reason. However, I would really like to see someone who has a chance of winning be on that ticket instead of just watching the train wreck happen in front of us.