FabioTheNewOrder @ FabioTheNewOrder @lemmy.world

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Bruh, you are the literal embodiment of the issue plaguing the USA in this historical period: you say you are ready to have a discussion and then, once somebody engages you with actual facts in his hands, you attack your interlocutor with the most vapid point without replying to his considerations.

Furthermore I've been taught that there are two possible sides when tackling a problem: you can either be part of the problem or part of its solution.

As far as I see nowadays republicans are ALL part of a problem called "political extremism". If you vote for the party which is presenting an autocrat and a crybaby as it's frontrunner for the past and upcoming elections you don't get to be offended when someone calls you out for that. If you are not voting democrat you are actively choosing to be ruled by a tiny minority which sees it's religion as the only viable solution to all the (made up) problems they see in the modern world. Should you vote democrat, on the other hand, the worst which may happen is that you'll loose some purchasing power when the world has been facing a pandemic and a regional war at the gates of Europe.

If your choice is to actively vote for the first option I've news from you: you are an enemy of the people and of democracy, don't be surprised when people will treat you as such in your future interactions with tem

You seem to equate a family not having a body with not having news of that soldier. But Ukraine has been collecting and identifying Russian bodies since the start of the war, and notifying families wherever possible. Many of the soldiers also have their own phones, and those phones have told the west a great deal about what is really going on behind Russian lines. Yet you seem sure that none of those soldiers would use their phones to speak of deaths within the unit. Interesting take.

You seem to forget that, following the bombing caused by a massive presence of phone signals in a single spot, Russia has been much more careful in letting its trooper use their cellphones. Beside that I imagine a family not having any news from his relatives at the front would be anxious for their loved ones and would start asking questions, even if it meant facing criminal charges. Ukraine can identify a portion of the bodies from the battlefield I imagine, and they would be able to reach the families of an even small percentage I reckon.

LOL. Think that over a bit and get back to me. Seriously.

I've thought about it and I really can't see who can pay Wagner's operators salaries, let alone arming them according to their standards (much better than the Russian army ones, can we agree on that?).

As far as I know Russia pays its soldiers 300-400€ a month and Wagner mercenaries are paid circa 2k (those who are not serving instead of being in a cell). Prigozhin was capable of providing for Wagner through his affairs in Africa and through the money he got from the Kremlin, will Putin be able to substitute such an income? What will happen if not? I've got my answers but they are just hypotheticals, who will live will see.

True enough. But that does not make either of us an expert on Russian affairs. His article does make one of us a fantasy writer, though.

He certainly knows Wagner better than you since he probably met them on the battlefield.

Works for me, lol. It's just an opinion, and everyone's got one.

But it helps, when forming an opinion, to acquaint oneself with all available fact first. And to be completely honest, you didn't even spot the most questionable opinion in my post. (Hint: Who is Sergei Shoigu?) But keep working on it, because as far as I'm concerned the more people that are interested in the subject as whole, whether right or wrong, the better.

Thank you for taking the time to state your disagreement.

No problems, it's a pleasure to have a conversation about these thematics since there is always to learn about any subject. In this sense, who is Sergei Shoigu? What I know about him is that he is a Putin sycophant only good as a yes man and coming from a political career scarcely linked to any military activity. Am I missing any information about the man?

Prighozin was funding much of Wagner himself, for example.

So, who is going to pay now that he's dead?

And that Russia's young men are not coming home in boxes because they are just not coming home (Russia doesn't want the bodies so as to avoid paying death benefits to families)

I imagine these families will be happier and happier each day that goes by without having any information about their loved ones.

But honestly, the biggest head scratcher here is the plain fact that mercenaries "to dispose of Putin" have been available forever

But if Prigozhin was paying their fees and keeping them in check with his control structure how could they have been available to change their masters?

I see your reply to the article as you see the article itself: full of speculations and assumptions but the main difference between the OP post and yours is that you are a nobody giving his opinion on the internet while the author of OP post was assistant director intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance for the HQ Land Command.

Given the status I'm more inclined to listen to his speculations rather than yours, respectfully

Thank you for expressing so well a simple thought that seems to be complicated to some of the people intervening in this thread!

Kudos!

While you were on active duty and patroling the streets this dude has been (and I quote) "from 2007 to 2010, he was based at HQ Land Command as assistant director intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance".

Do you think in this timeframe and under this qualification he might have had the chance to gather information and intelligence on some of the most well-known paramilitary and private mercenary armies such as Wagner?

IMHO I reckon he had more knowledge about these issues than a grunt on the groun so, if you aren't qualified to speak about these issues, I don't see the same situation with Mr. Gordon.

Then again these are just speculations on his side but they are far more informed than what you are trying to sell me with your (willingly?) limited and inaccurate analysis of his career.

Dude has a problem with his question being answered.

The guy who wrote the article has experience in a combat zone and has seen more military action than he will ever have.

By any standard these are speculations but they are presented by someone who has direct knowledge about these kind of groups, therefore they might be slightly more reliable than the average person's point of view.

If you are not happy with this explanation I'm afraid I cannot provide you with anything else

IF (and that's a big hypothetical) you are not trolling you are one of the problems our society is living through at the moment.

Lemme be real with you boss, if all the articles you have found feel biased maybe the bias is not in the articles thselves but in you. Maybe you want to find a reliable source disproving the theories of "the left" against the Donald, or an official statement capable of cleaning your cult-leader name.

You won't. We all listened to the call he made to Georgia State Secretary and we all saw what happened on January the 6th after Donald' speech.

So IF you are not trolling Stop, revise your approach to the issue and check whether the bias is in or outside you from an objective point of view. Then keep looking for facts and information

I've heard about this book before but I haven't had the chance to read it yet.

Definitely a reading I must add to my list, I'll try to find a copy of it to correct this lack of information.

Thanks a lot for the suggestion!!

Thank you so very much.

The article is not paywalled but it's not available to those who are not subscribed.

Much love <3

Sorry to bother but could anybody post the article contents for someone like me who'd like to avoid a further subscription to manage?

Thank you very much in advance!!

Too bad that you wouldn't be damaging just the leisure of a super rich person but also the environment around it.

We need to find ways to hurt them without damaging the environment worst than they are already doing if possible

Have you ever tried to remove shit from a (both natural and artificial )leather jacket? Expecially shit moist with urine?

I don't see anybody using the soft and comfortable sofas usually provided to these boats for a very long time

Lol, they might be a bit dad-joke like but I find these wordplays very funny.

Thanks for the laugh!

I'd personally prefer the use of manure or animal dung instead of spray paint as the former is a bit more natural and should not create any issue to the environment.

Furthermore, if used in the right quantity and of the right quality manure can permanently stick to a porous surface thus rendering the entire yatch, car, jet, helicopter or transport mean completely unusable for a very long time. For this application I'd suggest the use of carnivore ejections as these are usually far more unbearable than those coming from herbivores.

Anyway, keep up the good fight!!

As far as I am aware the only openly racist party being allowed on social media is the alt-right (the institutionalised right on the other hand is still clever enough to keep its racism hidden behind a façade of economics bullshit).

Pray tell, which extremist left wing organisation have been supporting twitter, threads or any other social media platform?

And since you are there, can you please explain how can you post a message without using your brain?

Lmao, Putin is now actively denying realities which are demonstrably sounder than his empty words. I recon in a very short time he will be sheltering in his dacia-bunker with his dog and his mistress being convinced victory is just around the corner while caressing a Glock.

Wonderful performance by the Russian economy btw, just prime.

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know I was talking to a climate scientist with years of experience in the field.

Again, I'm not saying this could be a viable solution as I don't have the competences nor the entirety of the data at my disposal to technically evaluate its feasibility. Furthermore, this is not (yet) a confirmed plan nor is a currently implemented program, it is one of the many solutions being evaluated by EXPERTS in dedicated settings to try solving a crisis which may very well bring our species on the brink of extinction in a matter of decades. And I don't know about you, but I tend to trust scientists and their expertise when talking about complex issues such as the climate crisis.

To me what is insane is that we have to be talking about such radical solutions to face an issue which may have been started to be challenged 50 or 60 years ago had the 7 sisters not lied to the politicians and the general public from the '60es.

If the far right extremists are taking the solution out if context presenting it as if we are talking to create a Matrix-like world is of course the usual far-right method of lying to the public presenting an issue in a partisan and extremist way and it's a problem of their electors if they aren't able to see beyond the lies they are being fed by these ignorant morons.

Still waiting for a reply to my questions. Is it possible that everyone shilling for fascists is not able to have a normal discussion while being the most pro-debate person on a face value?

EveRybOdY dEseRvEs tO Be diScUsSed WitH

Bitch, I'd love to discuss with you but you run from our debate at the first chance

What you were talking about is a possibile solution to the climate crisis we are living through being discussed in the appropriate sites and by the appropriate people. I fail to see the extremism you are talking about, unless you consider the climate crisis an extrmism but this would qualify you as a complete moron...

The fact that this man is held up as an example of an enlightened free speech defender and businessman by the same people fighting to ban books because they have a minor reference about sexual orientation or minority history should be the best argument against any discourse with such kind of people.

Never fight with a stupid, he or she will drag you at his or her level and will beat you with his or her experience