EndlessNightmare @ EndlessNightmare @reddthat.com

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As an aside, you seem to have really struck a nerve with OP. They are even attacking me now, lol.

I've already had to report them for becoming abusive.

That's my point though. They aren't doing a modest change when presented with information regarding factory farms. Because that modest change would come at an increased (financial) cost.

They're complaining about not being cruel enough to the chickens. Not a good look.

How I would differentiate:

People still have agency when faced with propaganda and indoctrination. Actual mind control is more of a physiological effect that removes agency.

To answer your question: yes I think it is possible. Consider what chemical substances can do to the brain.

It would also help if we didn't raise chickens in absolutely disgusting conditions

If you’re gonna cite the problem being that the farm is a “factory farm”, then the alternative is to, obviously, make it a humane farm.

Even with knowledge of factory farms, the general public (non-vegan) don't seriously seem to be pushing back and pushing for a change in farming.

Regardless of what vegans' end goal is, spreading awareness doesn't seem to be getting people to go for more modest changes either.

That footage will come out. Then people will protest. And nothing will change.

My point is that it is not productive to engage in people who have no empathy, because it won't actually accomplish anything. It is a wasted effort.

It's sort of along the lines of the Serenity Prayer. They fall under the "things I cannot change."

Anything but metric!

The news just keeps getting worse, doesn't it?

Desperate laborers

This is also why the right wing is so upset about falling fertility rates. Have more babies future desperate laborers. And of course current laborers become more desperate when they have more mouths to feed.

The normalization of long commuting has been such a disservice to society for many reasons. I guess you can add this one to the list.

I have no idea how to deal with people with no empathy

By not engaging with them. No, I'm not going to try and "change their minds", because I consider them to be a lost cause. I learned this years ago as a vegan.

For sake of mental health, it's best to just move on and engage with those who are more receptive and show a shred of humanity.

Horrified seems more likely

Some people have no friends or family.

I'm not aware of any laws that have been passed that are applied retroactively. It's referred to as an ex post facto law, and in the U.S. it is prohibited in the Constitution (for whatever that is worth these days).

It absolutely is. It's one of those things that you can't really turn back from once you start down that road.

I think the issue is the very foundation of religion leads to an "us vs them" mentality.