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I don't like the guy, he is an idiot who shouldn't have been there and he's proven since then that he's just a piece of shit.

The difference between you and me is that I am able, at least in this case, to put my opinion of someone and my political beliefs aside and objectively look at the facts.

Which one? What charges should have been brought and what evidence do you have?

The jury was given instructions that they could also convict him of second degree murder.

(Edit) I take this back, I searched my source and I confused the prosecution requesting it, but it was denied by the judge.

You’re a self-proclaimed leftist who supports a fascist who murdered other leftists at a BLM protest.

No, they are addressing the facts. Notice how you don't mention the facts at all, you mention a narrative: sticking people in boxes and then taking sides. You're all but outright admitting the facts are secondary, at best. Just like a good trump supporter.

He was literally acquitted by a jury of his peers of murder. Regardless of how you feel about it, it's shocking that one would be surprised some people think he isn't guilty.

Are you seriously arguing the family wouldn’t want genocide bright to light?

I already explicitly and directly told you this is untrue, and yet you still misrepresent it. Why? What purpose does it serve you to continually misrepresent my position?

your honestly arguing that the family might be pro genocide.

You can't tell the difference between saying they might be against a memorial to their daughter being vandalized and being pro-genocide? "Are you actually dumb are just choosing [sic] idiotic arguments. [sic]"

It’s what I mean when I say you reduce her to solely a Jew.

Incorrect. What I'm saying is that her Jewishness in inextricably tied to her and a memorial to her and the genocide of Jewish people. Again, you keep seeming to ignore it, but there are other genocide monuments right in Amsterdam that they could have defaced and still done the "defacing a genocide memorial to draw attention to a genocide."

I’m not telling you how to do anything,

You're literally accusing me of supporting genocide by my protest of their actions. It's the same exact thing I'm doing with their antisemitic protest. The difference is that I can logically support my claim, while yours requires ignoring what I've explicitly told you is my position.

that seems like common sense

You're confusing what you want to be true with "common sense." I'm not saying you are wrong, I don't know the man so to me it's "common sense" not to speak for him, but I find it terribly presumptuous to believe that they would be okay with this.

I’m saying your actions say you’re against drawing attention to genocide

It's a ridiculous logic jump from because I think their actions are antisemitic, that means I'm against drawing attention to the genocide. It's the same exact ridiculously baseless logic that Netenyahu and so many Zionists are using to paint any protest of their actions as antisemitism. It's shocking to see it used "in reverse."

but looking from the outside in reducing someone to a jew and not a icon is pretty shitty behavior.

It's kind of hilarious for you to use this argument while arguing that it's ridiculous to assume that defacing the a jewish memorial is antisemitic, when there is zero link for the former and a pretty glaring one for the latter.

You want then to “protest the right way” you’re part of the problem.

Again, putting words in my mouth. I'm just pointing out how defacing a memorial of a jewish person that has nothing to with Zionism reeks of antisemitism. Also, funny, how you telling me protesting their actions with my words is wrong and I'm against drawing attention the genocide, are basically telling me to "protest the right way." What's good for the goose, my friend.

Even in that link, he was disaffiliated from the group of churches that he joined, and remained the leader of the church he made.

Can't be fired from the church you founded and are head of.

I hate to defend these hypocritical dopes, but the more "evidence" provided, the more it appears to me that it is not all surprising that he was fired.

No, I suggested her family would be ashamed of you for reducing her to just a jew

I certainly never did anything of the sort. Which is what I mean about making up my position. You can't debate what I said, so you have to make up something ridiculous to attack.

But this still doesn't answer my question. We are talking about someone defacing her memorial, and you said "Neither her not her father Otto are likely to take issue to drawing attention to genocide."

I can only interpret this one of two ways: either you think they would be okay with people defacing her memorial, or you think that I'm against drawing attention to genocide. I can assure you the latter is not true, but can you explain? Maybe I'm missing something.

you ignore the genocide victim section and instead claim antisemitism solely because she’s Jewish.

I very explicitly told them what they could do about the genocide part of it without exposing their antisemitism.

the fact you can’t see that over her religion is the fucking point.

Again, many other genocide memorials one could deface, including right in Amsterdam. You seem to be projecting: you think that I'm focusing solely on her being Jewish, while you are seemingly ignoring it from your point.

That link contradicts what the poster said because virtually all of them were either resigned or were fired. Some it's not clear what happened to their position, but I don't see a single one of them that "kept their job." I also don't see a single one saying everyone is sinners, most either just appeared to disappear, died, or tried to blame someone for framing them.

But no no she’s a Jew that’s all she’ll ever be, you’re right how shameful of me to suggest otherwise.

Wait, you're arguing that her family would be for them defacing her memorial? Wow. No wonder you have to make up my position.

But no no she’s a Jew that’s all she’ll ever be, you’re right how shameful of me to suggest otherwise.

What if they painted a swastika on it? No one was harmed. Is that also nothing like the analogy I made?

Nope what you’re doing is implying that because she is a new

No, what I'm saying is that targeting her for the protest, when she has nothing to do with Israel, makes it pretty clear they are targeting her because she is a jew. If you want to deface a genocide memorial to make your point about Gazans being the victim of genocide, it wouldn't expose your antisemitism if you targeted memorials of victims other genocides.

Anne Frank has nothing to do with Zionism. She was dead long before the formation of Israel. She represents the suffering, struggles, and genocide of the Jews at the hands of the Nazis.

It would be like walking up to a Jewish person, regardless of their position on Zionism, and punching them in the face and then trying to claim it isn't antisemitism but a protest against Zionism.

Sorry, but it is. They might not realize that they are blaming all Jews for Zionism, but that's precisely what they are doing.

Many people find antisemitism to be upsetting. Just because it's being done as protest to upset people doesn't change what it is.

They were times when he was within 5%, and his campaign also outraised her.

If we're talking about right at the beginning when he won NH, sure. But she went on to clean up in the next few primaries and it was a run away from there. It was closer than expected, but it was never much of a race.

The irony being that the DNC rules actually favored sanders, and he got the most positive coverage in the media. The DNC bad mouthing him was wrong, and giving her debate questions was also wrong and 'putting their thumb on the he scale.' But the idea that he got screwed is not the reality. These were minor at best, and he got absolutely destroyed.

She didn't screw Bernie, she crushed him, as much as I hate to admit it. Believing that Bernie got screwed, rather than beat, is the equivalent of believing trump got screwed, rather than beat.

lgbtqnation is a garbage site. If it makes me weird to say it, I can live with that.

Also, where the hell did you pull that number from?

Well, you can just do the math yourself, it's pretty straight-forward.

However, more to the point, it's taken right from around 38 seconds into the video. Kind of funny to be accused of "not watching the video" by someone who is implying the number was pulled from nowhere, when it's right in the video.

I certainly don't think this closes the book on anything, but I'm responding to your claim that it's not useful. If this is a cheap and easy test, it's a great screening tool putting people into groups of low risk/high risk for which further, maybe more expensive/specific/sensitive, tests can be done. Especially if it can do this early.

Ok

The test is 90% accurate, thats still pretty useful. Especially if you are simply putting people into a high risk group that needs to be more closely monitored.