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because one of the 2 will be elected regardless

What if all the people chanting better than trump voted independent?

What if you guys did something other than the same thing we always do?

Either participate and vote to try to change something or accept that you're discarding your already limited political power by taking this moral stance, and in the process also making the problems you're concerned about worse.

Voting blue is not voting for change its voting for "not worse". And even then it will still get worse under dems You're defending this system by continuing to buy into it.

I voted blue every time I voted, and we still have genocide supply. Its unacceptable, and thus I will not accept it.

Have fun being a genocide apologist.

Replace evey year you listed with 2012.

And replace trump with George w Bush.

These were the same arguments being made by Dems back then. I voted. And we still have genocide supply. The genocide we have now is unacceptable. Just because there is potential for it to get worse don't mean I should accept they situation we have now.

Biden cut check to Israel with a smile on his face. So will the republican party and so will future democrats. None of them will be getting my vote.

You're a genocide apologist when you vote blue.

You are really misinformed. Roe got overturned directly as a result of republicans getting voted into power. Trump had a shit load of judicial appointments, including 3 SCOTUS appointments.

Both parties are culpable, they switch back and forth in control and nothing actually changes.

You're literally blaming the democrats for the republican's evil actions.

Democrats are completely unable to stop republicans evil action. They are worthless or accomplices or both.

You said it was zero but it wasn't It was zero for me, and everybody I have ever met.

On basically ever single issues Biden is better than Trump I'm at least some way.

And yet everything still sux.

You: Would you like to eat dog shit or chicken shit. ?

Me : I don't want to eat any shit.

You: you must choose chicken shit or we will have to eat dog shit every day!!!!!

Me: What if we found something other than shit to eat?

You: better than dog shit! better than dog shit! better than dog shit!

The genocide is ongoing under the biden administration!!!!

Better than trump is still fucking awful. And I don't support it.

Maybe if all the people here telling me too vote biden, didn't . and instead supported better independent candidates, we really could have change.

But your going to do the same thing we have been doing for decades, and insist I do the same.

They're both supporting the ongoing genocide. This isn't helpful for deciding who to vote for.

You are the one deciding between the two only, not me. I will vote for a candidate that has a platform I can support and nothing else.

It's going to take all levels of government to unfuck us from a two party system.

The dems continue to get elected because of the Two party system. They aren't going to change it.

Let me know when it does tho....

Only one of these choices is actively trying to turn our country into a theocratic hell hole.

Yes, and the other will happily participate in genocide, be unable to create real change in Any area I care about and then pretend they are the party of moral superiority.

You vote blue you will still have red on your hands.

For you it was zero but it wasn't zero as a whole like you're trying to pretend.

Biden ran on debt cancellation, not a debt forgiveness of loams already eligable for debt relief.

This did nothing for me and thus I will give biden nothing.

Or do you have an actual argument here.

Do you? Your only argument is better than trump.

You deserved to be mocked, your playing into the same lesser of Two evils logic they were using with George W bush.

Voting for one of them is our only choice if we wish to influence the course of our country.

Voting for dems is the SAME course we are already on.

How can you not see this. This is what we have been doing for decades.

I threw my vote away when I voted for biden. I got exactly zero of the things I wanted. And an extra genocide supply on the side.

Not to mention roe v wade got overturned. But that's totally different because the dems are.... Powerless to make real change? or even to keep things from sliding back?

But I should keep voting for them Because.....they are also powerless to stop trump? Lmao.

I have voted in every major election since I was 18.

That includes 4 Presidential, and many local ones.

They have been playing the same "lesser of two evils" card since George w. Bush. And probably before.

You're a chump for thinking things will change by playing into the same trap.

I don't believe repubs will be better. I just consider them two parts of a single flawed system.

By voting for either of them you support both parties.

Biden cuts a check for genocide

Dem voter: better than trump, better than trump, better than trump, better than trump.

You should get this tattooed on you.

And you're ignoring SCOTUS's part of this.

No I'm including the flaws in the supreme court as apart of a large flawed structure that you insist I buy into and support.

It wasn't zero. Biden ....

I saw exactly zero money for student loans from biden, so that's how many votes he will get from me.

This is all the same shit they said in 2016.

You are a stupid for falling into the same trap 7 years later.

The game is rigged. There are no good candidates. Stop voting for them.

If you want to change the system,

You're telling me how to change the system because you know for a fact that the dems are worthless. Lmao.

I don't even know what to say to such stupidity.

This brought zero relief to me. So thanks biden for nothing. Nice gotcha tho.

If the choices are Biden and Trump, and your single issue is Israel

I'm not a single issue voter. But I will not support the genocide with my vote.

I'm also burned when biden completely failed to get student loans support passed.

well... you don't really HAVE a choice

Exactly that's why I'm not participateing!

You're a fool to keep playing a rigged game simply because it the only one in the cabinet.

Smallest incremental change + war crime support is better than active regression + war crime support.

No its war crimes with extra steps.

I will not vote for the party of genocide supply. Aka the dems.

Local candidates are not going fix the two party system. That's a national issue.

I don't know the solution, but buying into the Dems bullshit "lesser of Two evils" AGAIN is not it.

Have fun being the same chump you were 8 years ago.

not voting at all and just indirectly let trump win?

2016 called they want their democrat guilt trip back.

Roe v wade was over turned when dems were in office.

At their best they are worthless, at their worst, they are the same crypto-fasicts as the right with better PR.

I will vote for a candidate that has a platform I can support. If there are none I will not vote.

Every single election is biased towards a two party system. It's not circular logic, it is an inherent bias/flaw of our election system.

And the solution is too keep doing the same thing we do every election cycle? You realize this is the circular logic in was reffering too.

Last I checked, Biden voters never tried to overthrow an election.

No they just support a genocide supplier and act like its the moral high ground.

The most biden and the dems will ever do is the smallest incremental change that they can advertise to chumps like you.

And while they do this they openly support war crimes around the world.