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Establishment democrats won't let it happen, but they can't do shit if they don't get elected

So we should vote democrat? Lmao Are you hearing yourself?

There will be red on everyone's hands no matter what. No matter who we choose, our tax dollars are going to genocide.

And people tell me I'm pessimistic.

Our tax dollars are going to genocide because of the tacid support our politicians get from people like you.

You are the problem, you are the person who refuses to do anything different.

This situation didn't start in 2016, it has been made by decades of people making the same choice you insist everyone make.

Vote blue or else!

Certainly not too genocide apologist like yourself.

The choices are Biden and Trump, one of them will be the next President.

This is because people like you keep voting blue every time regardless of how bad they are.

If all the people who voted lesser would vote 3rd party the outcome might be different.

Right now you are ensuring nothing will change.

Let me get this straight:

I'm letting the dems get away with becoming the lesser of Two evils by not supporting them....And you aren't doing that by voting for them? That sounds like BS to mee.

If Dems were an overwhelming majority

They had both houses and the president in 2020 and didn't do shit.

We still have genocide supply.... We still have campaign fiance corruption and a million prblemz they didn't do shit.

like you're still 20 years old and thinking the world will change if you just talk about it enough.

Ahh yes there it is. I'm an angry youngster.

You have to plan ahead instead of yelling about it the last goddamn minute (in terms of election timing, this is the last minute) if you ever plan to side step D vs R, you have to look ahead 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12 years

What if 10 12 years ago we all started voting independent? I think that would have a big impact.

In fact I think if we did that work years ago, we would have a healthy 3rd party candidate now.

But instead we keep doing the same things we always do..... Vote blue or else!!!!!

I refuse to play rigged games. And so should you.

I want to vote third party, but I'm not going to pretend that it's safe to do so yet at the level of president.

You are the problem.

There's a much better shot at taking over the Democratic party to force reform through than will ever happen with the GOP.

It is much more likely that a 3rd party will win, than the democratic party being reformed. Change my mind.

If so, "they" were right then,

No they weren't. I voted blue. Biden got elected, and then he supplied the ongoing genocide. That is not a win. That is just the same abhorrent outcome that is completely unacceptable.

However, the problem is that you're short-sighted

I would say the same thing about you. You are the one who is insisting we continue to use the bandaid, aka voting for the lesser.

Then the independent would still lose, by a very large margin, because 99%+ of the voting population has never communicated with you or even knows you exist.

I'm not the guy who came up with voting for 3rd party. Lmao. Wtf.

As for "What if a majority of voters voted Independent?" Might as well ask "What if people stopped being hateful bigots?"

OK. But you are the person who is refusing to vote any other way. People won't vote 3rd party because they think like YOU.

You are the problem. In this scenario you would be the hateful bigot who refuse to change....

That's not what they said in 2012 (a year when Bush wasn't even on the ballot, by the way).

You are right it was in 2000. That was a long time ago.

Anyways here's an article talking about black voters are " choosing the lesser of two evils" when voting for Gore. Remember how that turned out?

If I remember correctly gore got more votes but Bush still won because his brother was the governor of Florida or something...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2000/10/29/some-black-voters-view-gore-as-the-lesser-of-two-evils/875026c6-d3d7-4076-ae3d-db858cb0270b/

Don't expect others to care about you if you only care about yourself.

Like how you are caring about the Palestinian people being genocided rn? by voting for the guy who approved money for their ongoing genocide.

other people be damned...

I guess your not including Palestinianz as people?

Pretty on point for a genocide supporter.

Biden is not cardboard in my mind. It is not acceptable or palatable at all.

It's actually really funny to me that you decide to make this choice. To purpose biden is not chicken shit but instead cardboard.

The fact that you look at biden and the genocide that he is directly helping commit, and see that as acceptable, Says a lot more about you than me.

You are a genocide apologist.

Choosing to continue to participate in the social fabric is supporting the choices made much the same as casting a vote.

What a crock of shit. I can't realistically opt out of "the social fabric" I can choose who I vote for. And it won't be biden or trump.

Y'all should try it!

you're also a genocide apologist who's enabling whatever party wins.

You are exactly right....I voted for biden in 2020.

I am a privelged person, I don't live in a country being genocided rn. And apparently so are you.

To me It doesn't matter if its happening in another country. I personally feel You are a coward to down play this genocide simply because its not happening in your back yard.

You got more immediate problems? Ok. Trump is gonna do bad shit? Almost certainly.

But Biden is not the solution to the problems in america. Dems will not bring about real change. They will only allow for a future republican candidate, with better PR, to take hold.

They are worthless. And your support of them only amounts to the same flawed choice, and the same outcomes already have.

Finally answer me this:What if everyone telling me too vote lesser of two evils, voted independent?

That would be really great, but that's a fantasy. The reality is that we are stuck with a two party system.

You are the reason we are stuck in the two party system. You refuse to vote any other way. Lol

Do you not see the fallacy here?

Meanwhile you're insisting an option that makes things as terrible as possible, as genocidal as possible.

The genocide is happening when I voted blue jackass. Its happening now. Under the dems.

You voted for the genocide supplier and your telling me we all need to do it again.

I realize you, personally, don't care.

Ummmmm.... Is this you:

There are larger issues at stake in the '24 election than what Israel is doing

I feel like care more than you do. You're the one writing off the genocide. You going to choose the SAME guy who cut checks to Israel.

Lmao.

Projection much?

Have you never heard the term "delayed consequences"?

Have you? Dems and repubs switch control back and forth constantly. We still have genocide supply, abortion bans, no functional student debt relief.

What if every person telling me to vote the lesser of two evils, voted independent?

What if everybody took the same stance as me?

What if all the people telling me to vote lesser of two evils, voted independent?

Does the math line up then?

Maybe your the problem. Have you ever considered that?