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  • The US bolsters NATO, Taiwan, South Korea, and the rest of our allies, Trump is an extreme isolationist, pro-Putinist, Pro Kim Jong Un, and despite his BS, Pro Xi, if he pulls out of NATO, flips on all of our alliances it will break the current world order, and bolster a world order of fascist tyrants. Trump is also talking about some pretty extreme measures at home, and I doubt we'll all just take it, loyalties are going to he divided, we're weak AF right now and primed for a collapse, which will also upset the current world order. Also people may not like the idea of world orders, but what we have is much better than the alternative that guys like Trump, Putin, and others offer.

    The reason why we'll weather things better under Biden is that he's competent, surrounds himself with fairly competent people, he's not an isolationist, and MAGA/GOP are one presidential loss from total collapse, especially now with the Trump's in full control of GOP finances.

    So yeah, that's why.

  • So let me get this straight, if I, living in Florida, ever found a fire ant free spot to lay down and relax in a park, I'll be harassed by cops now? Or is this just for the "shittier" neighborhoods? What about people at the beach?

    The current governor and Florida legislature are a bunch of mean spirited bigoted buffoons.

  • There's just too many misinformed hot heads saying and doing dumb shit while being herded by malicious puppet masters with their own nefarious agendas, and if Trump wins in November each of those dominoes will start tumbling as things degrade. I hope we all see reason but those that are sucked into the various disinformation and propaganda campaigns are basically forming new religions around the objects of those misinformation and propaganda campaigns, and each of those new religions have counter-religions that those same misinformation and propaganda purveyors have also helped to foster and foment, just a really ugly problem to tackle regardless of if things go well in the future.

  • You're acting like we haven't been in the opening stages of WWIII since Russia invaded Ukraine...back in 2014! The deeper invasion into Ukraine and Israel v Gaza are just more steps in that direction, and if America devolves into Civil War the whole world is going to be settling past grievances, and WWIII will be on like Donkey Kong. While I hope I'm wrong, things could definitely go wrong for all of us, especially with who takes or keeps the American Presidency in November.

  • I've seen it said where Musk and Thiel and the other Internet billionaires are the modern robber barons, but one thing to note, they're almost all "Libertarian", they are almost all trying to force some kind of ideology onto us, especially Thiel, since he is completely intertwined with the MAGA movement and the GOP, and they have no goal of contributing to making our country better in the way that Rockefeller, Carnegie, and others of the Gilded Age did.

    So while I agree with the spirit of this CS Lewis quote, I believe it is aging like milk.

    Here's a good article I found that highlights the contrasts between the old robber barons vs the new:

    https://online.maryville.edu/business-degrees/americas-gilded-age/

  • I'm obviously not talking about the ones who would want to kill us, but not that it would matter to you or get past your smugness, you're almost as bad as bad as one of those Christian Nationalists we're talking about here, you just don't have the power that they do over us, but if you ever did boy would that slope get really slippery.

    I get it dude, growing up Christian fucked you up mentally, but this topic, just like the world/reality isn't black and white, there are greys, and that area of grey is usually where innocent people are, people who may be into Jesus or Allah, or whatever but don't want to force their religion on others, your paranoid view isn't in line with the world at large. Like is Reverend Raphael Warnock trying to kill us too? There's quite a few LGBTQ religious folks too that aren't trying to force their views on anyone, are they trying to kill us too? Because there's many like them who are our allies in this struggle against white Christian Nationalism.

    But hey who needs enemies when we have friends like yourself, amirite my dude?

  • Listen, I get what you're saying, as douchey as you are saying it, but that still doesn't discount my point that there are good people who do believe in your "Christ fable" and attacking their beliefs doesn't win us anything at all. I'm more than comfortable letting the theists who are legitimately good people who believe in their religion, or even their own version of it, keep their beliefs, because we need allies, and attitudes like yours are just going to turn people against us and get us put into the camps that much faster, especially when douchebags like yourself alienate people and leave us with no allies.

    Also if you want to change people maybe start with getting rid of that chip on your shoulder, because with the way you're coming across now all you're doing is further entrenching people in their beliefs. If you know you suck or that you're making people not like you then make that change in yourself first before asking someone else to make a change because you think they should, just starting shit on the Internet helps nobody, not even yourself.

  • First of all stop being an edgy condescending prick with your "the Christ fable" bullshit, you're talking with another atheist, so how about you back your edgy bullshit down a notch, you're being a disrespectful embarrassment to the rest of us.

    Obviously it's not my religion, so I don't have shit to quote about it, but I do know plenty of theists that do act accordingly and I know plenty of theists who don't, and the MAGAs are among those that do not.

    As for what I'm talking about when I say "act accordingly" I'm talking about the specific tenants that are commonly thought of when people talk about Jesus's teachings, you can fault the rest of Abrahamic teachings, but love thy neighbor and all of the other stuff along that line of thinking is what I'm talking about.

    Either way, if your intent here is to be pendantic and hyperbolic, I don't have time or patience for your bullshit, if your intent is to try to "bible-Nazi" me into submission, congratulations, you win because I couldn't quote the bible anymore than any of these MAGA idiots could, nor do i care to.

  • Well for one they certainly aren't abiding by the teachings of Jesus, which is why we joke about conservatives worshipping Supply-Side Jesus (aka Ronnie Reagan).

    Now this doesn't apply to all Christians, there are plenty of folks who do abide by what Jesus was teaching, but these MAGA cultists who preach and flock to the so called "Prosperity Gospel" just preach selfishness, avarice, bigotry, seem to be only interested in power and control over others.

  • The article cites COVID as part of the reason the world is going fash, but it's funny how the antivaxx/mask crowd is like "yes let's go with the fascists, because they never force us to do things we don't want to do" yet the moment the fash decide it's time for everyone to vaxx and mask anybody who won't will get straight up murdered.