DessertStorms @ DessertStorms @lemmy.blahaj.zone

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Yeah, yeah, "not all", only enough to make sure there isn't even a hint of socialist influence left in the party. Also, he doesn't have to personally have removed someone from the party, for his actions and the actions of those who would fall in line with his establishment backed agenda to affect members of the party being sabotaged out of the party or leaving because they were made to feel unwelcome. The few that are left are relegated to the back benches and left with no real power to speak of.

In this thread there is already evidence of his dirty, unethical, and down right bigoted tactics, you not being comfortable enough to confront it doesn't change the reality - Labour under Starmer is a neoliberal party that is serving capitalists and the establishment, and doesn't have a hint of socialism nor solidarity or concern for the working class left in it (because when it does prop up as enough of a threat to the status quo, the threat is removed by whatever means necessary, it's not like he has to go far when he's deliberately stacked the party with other bootlickers who easily tighten ranks against anyone they no longer want around).

Obviously they won’t because that same system put them in power

Yes

and is currently holding far-right at bay

No, they're acting as an establishment backed placeholder while the right regroups in preparation for a surge even further right next elections (when they get to blame all of the countries problems on "lefties"). Also the far right has made pretty significant gains this election.

Either way though you're right - he has no reason to fix the voting system. People really need to let this sink in - Starmer isn't there for the good of the country or the people, but his own and that of the establishment.

Absolutely, in case anyone needed more proof that the guy is 100% dedicated to the establishment and furthering his own career, not working class, and definitely not otherwise marginalised people (sadly, many do, so spreading this kind of info far and wide is not only welcome, but necessary).

If you're not from here, my issue isn't with you, people aren't obliged to know the politics of all countries (though wherever you are, something similar is likely happening - the Overton window is shifting to the right globally), it's the masses of locals who buy in to the idea that Starmer is a leftist that I find frustrating..

Lmmfao..

The USA was founded on genocide and built on slavery, and has never treated either of the groups they owe their exitance to with anything but disdain and abuse, never mind other groups like LGBTQIA+, disabled people, those who aren't white or Christian, women, and so on and so on...

Members of all of those groups are not only generally paid less, criminalised more, given less access to services and opportunities, but are openly abused by both establishment and society.

But for you to specifically use trans people as an example, in this climate, where they have been the direct target of bigoted and violent abuse really is infuriating, and I have a feeling you're more of a self designated "ally" than an actual one, since you're clearly not even aware of what trans people are having to deal with.

The fact that you find the idea of American not being inclusive surprising only proves your wilful ignorance, not the presence of any real inclusion in the USA.

Corbyn was also at the helm of a horrible Labour defeat in 2019.

Corbyn lost by less than 3 million votes (E: in spite of a brutal years-long smear campaign literally designating him "unelectable"). A "horrible defeat" is the narrative the neoliberal media wants you to follow because it makes him seems like less of a threat to the establishment than he really was.

E: it's a bit late and I doubt anyone will see this now, but after seeing it just mentioned on tv I had to add that Starmer won with about a third of the votes, while Corbyn lost with just under half. So no matter how the media or those who believe it try to twist things, and as if there's really any doubt when you look at the reactions to each, but obviously it has to be said - Corbyn was demonstrably more popular than Starmer is.

The media is pushing the narrative that Labour is on the left of politics as a way to fear monger and ensure his failures will be seen as failures of left wing policies, and shift the Overton window further to the right as a result, but they haven't even been in the centre, but rather completely past it and in to mild right wing since Starmer took over and purged all the actually left leaning members from the party, and made it clear that he has zero class, or any other conscious.

His entire career in opposition has been proof that he's nothing but a Tory in a red tie, since he didn't oppose them on anything of any substance, and his entire election campaign was cantered on benefitting businesses, not the people of the country.

He's gone against unions, he's neglected health and social services, he's ignored disabled people, he's mocked the fight against racism, he's made it clear over and over and over again that he's in politics to serve the establishment, and his own career, not the country or the working class people who carry it on our backs.

So like, yay, Tories are out, but actually, we just have more of the same, only this time the veil is thicker and there is a pretence of progressiveness, that is only going to lull liberals in to a false sense of security, and push centre and right winged voters even further to the right, and leftism remains unrepresented in our parliament, because it's too big a threat to the establishment (why Starmer was brought in in the first place - damage control after Corbyn).

They could, but aren't going to.

So far they have u-turned on every pledge they've made, specifically those about nationalising services, saving the health and social services from complete destruction from underfunding and privatisation, and stopping further cuts to a cruel benefits system they have no intention of addressing.

Meanwhile taxing the rich more wasn't even in their pledges, all they talk about is making Britain "better for business" and making the population less "work shy".

Anyone pinning any hope for significant change on Starmer's blue Labour, hasn't been paying any attention (or is out enough of direct harms way to not give a shit about those of us already at the bottom who will continue getting pounded).

Imagine being such a fucking bootlicker, and probably financially privileged enough, that as a Black man, you consider America now, but also historically, "inclusive" in any way shape or form.

Never mind having had the job to know that American democracy is a lie (but I guess lying to yourself about it to make you feel better).

Makes me almost think it's a fake, but then neoliberalism is a hell of a drug..

You don't have democracy at home.

What’s next? World War III?

Already in the works.. 😬

The soundtrack for the first one was a banger, too..

Thanks for the reminder!

ACAB

This happened in Canada, what does the usa have to do with this? This same thing is playing out over in the EU as well....People inherently do not want groups that come over and violently force their beliefs on the population.

Maybe if the first group of countries stopped their centuries old "tradition" of doing exactly that to the rest of the world (and on a scale no immigrant could ever imagine inflicting, even if they were so inclined), there wouldn't be so many people fleeing "developing" nations and war zones in the first place?

I mean, you're a racist xenophobe so I don't expect logic would mean much to you, you just want confirmation that brown Muslim people are violent by nature and that they've come over there to take your job and rape "your" women), but that doesn't change reality (which is that your job is at risk because of capitalists, and white men are by far the largest demographic of rapists and other criminals, despite our "justice" systems doing their darndest to over represent minorities in prisons) , nor the fact that almost all of the supposed problems our "developed" world countries have with immigration are at the very least 98% self inflicted and could be resolved if only our governments didn't treat, and brainwash the population to treat "foreigners" as their scapegoat.

You're being manipulated by the oldest trick in the book, the fact that you've taken the propaganda on so enthusiastically is something you should work out with yourself, rather than taking it out on the most convenient target those in power have marked for you.

What is happening now is the system self correcting. It was designed to concentrate immense power in the hands of a select, corrupt, few, all we're seeing now is the illusions they've piled on to that slowly dissolve as they no longer need to keep up pretences.

I don’t think the aggression was warranted or helpful, and only served to stagnate the discussion.

Lmfao, whatever makes you feel better and not have to confront realities that make you uncomfortable.. 🙄

(E: realities that you actively contribute to by tone policing, and framing and dismissing people whose rights, and lives, are being abused and put at risk as "aggressive", which is a classic and well documented silencing tactic, whether you knew you were doing it or not. You also literally contributed nothing to the conversation. So basically your entire reply is one big projection, almost impressive)

So clearly I don't speak for all disabled people, and as you say, and as is with any group, the needs of disabled people are individual and can change depending on many factors, so I don't know if I can really give a conclusive answer to that.

You do touch on respect, and that'd probably be the top priority (and again, probably applies to interacting with all people) - we don't need saviours, we need comrades. Respect the individual and their boundaries, they know themselves better than you do, and if they say no to something, trust that they know what's best and back off without taking personal offence (and if helping is contingent on someone being nice and eternally grateful - don't do it. Only help another person because you want to help them, not because you're looking for praise and adoration. Not saying you'd do this op, but far too many do - like people who grab your wheelchair and push without asking or being asked and then get angry when you ask them to stop).

I think other than that, the main almost universal one would be electricity. Even if someone doesn't depend on it to power life sustaining machinery and/or aids (and many do), or seems like they immediately need electricity to survive, things like maintaining and controlling bodily temperature can be difficult or even impossible for some, so things like air conditioning, or heating pads (which are also vital for many for pain management), are essential (E: also, communication devices!). So having portable generators or other alternative sources of backup power in case of emergency can be a huge help.

Beyond that, the only way you can know is to get to know the disabled people in you community, build relationships friendships and trust, listen to them and let them know you're there to offer help and support if they need it. If they feel safe and comfortable, they will come to you when and if they need it.

I agree with everything you've said, just one tip: please don't call us "differently abled", we're disabled, and there is nothing wrong with calling us that.

Otherwise, thank you for actually including us in the first place, not many people do.

This is like reading a reverse horoscope - you've just thrown as many negative traits as you could think of at the wall, knowing at least a few will stick.

Nothing on your list couldn't also apply to an adult, especially those most privileged and entitled in society.

To add to the extensive information you've already been given, I would highly recommend the Anarchist FAQ, which is all good, but specifically section J breaks down the "what can we do about it" part.

The anarchist Library in general is a fantastic resource, another good place to start might be David Graeber's Are You An Anarchist? The Answer May Surprise You! or Kropotkin's Mutual Aid.

Happy exploring!