Cosmic Cleric @ CosmicCleric @lemmy.world

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Centrists want the status quo, yes, but mostly just for themselves.

That's not true at all. I know Centrists who care about everybody, and want everybody to be safe/happy/successful. They see it as a "floating tide raises all boats" kind of thing.

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Put a link in your license that goes to one of your comments that explains the whole license thing. Then you never have to have this conversation again.

I'm trying to not talk about it, and would like others to not talk about it either, but instead talk about other things, like the subject of the post my comment(s) are made in. So if they want answers to their questions, they're going to have to read my previous comments, as I don't want to repeat myself.

Ain’t no one going to trawl through 10 months of your comments to find it.

You wouldn't have to read through all tenish months worth. Just go back that far and read one of the first comments/conversations that you see. There was one that was over something like seventy(?) comments in it, going into great detail, both pro and con, of how people (including myself) felt on the top.

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Sounds like someone who got called on their bluff.

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Thanks, appreciate the support!

It's amazing how bent out of shape some people get about this, both currently, as well as about tenish months ago when I last was on Lemmy (check out my comment history from that time period if you really want to get annoyed).

I got to imagine that its people who want to farm the comments for their LLMs training, that are trying to prevent the popular usage of people licensing their content.

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In case you want your license declaration to look the same as mine (instead of just being a quote), you can copy and paste in the following text ...

[~This~ ~comment~ ~is~ ~licensed~ ~under~ ~CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0~](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en)

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That license does nothing.

It makes me feel good. That's something.

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Yep. Talk about "timing is everything". Today's votes are ready for him. Yesterdays, not so much.

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The server service are class traitors

Wow man, I was trying to be humerous, and you replied so darkly. Yikes!

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Anyone who is in the room with him and doesn’t sock him in the fucking nose is a terrible human being

Well, to be fair, the Secret Service may have a problem with that.

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Well, I was saying that mostly in jest (hence the 😜 ).

Take care.

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the united states fucked around, its about time they found out the world doesnt need it.

Well, approximately half did.

Best to think of the USA as a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde type of entity.

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Ah. Well, I have questions or comments I could make about the license.

A little passive-aggressive of you 😜 but I'm betting you could find answers to your questions if you looked through my comment history, starting about 10ish months ago. There was ALLOT of conversation about it at that time. You'd probably also see the kind of comments you'd make already made as well, saving you some time.

However, while I feel passionately about Unix and Linux and OSS in general, I don’t think I have anything useful or interesting to add to the thread that hasn’t already been said.

That's fine, I didn't mean to suggest that you personally (vs others) had to comment on the subject at hand, just that I wish I would only have to respond to comments of the subject at hand.

I wish you luck both with finding engaging conversation and with your licensing.

And may you have a GREAT day today!

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Fundamentally, what Centrists want is stability, for people to get along, to find solutions that the majority on both sides would agree with. For the status-quoish state of stability.

A Centrist would be a Liberal (as its defined today, and not how it was defined in the 70's/80's) before they would be a Leftist. They perceive Capitalism as a stable foundation of the society.

To get a Centrist to believe in Leftist ideals you'd have to try and show that Leftism is also stable, AND describe how the transition/change to Leftism on its own would not be an unstabilizing thing. And also how Capitalism is a dead-end alley for the species ultimately, and how its ultimately hurtful to a society by encouraging fighting and competition between its members.

You'd also have to show Centrists that Rightists would understand that Leftism works. Centrists want both Leftists and Rightists to be 'happy' (loaded word I know, but you get the gist of what I'm trying to opine on).

No idea how to do all that, but IMO that's what would need to be done. You'd have to get the Right on board with Leftism, and you'd have to show Centrists that moving to Leftism won't be destabilizing to their current way of existing.

Best guess would be to appeal to common belief systems (safety, fairness, freedoms, respect) that all three pillars would have in common.

An overall generic example would be to prove to a Rightist that a hand-out to someone is not being unfair, but its just helping someone out until they get on their feet, and can't be exploited, to try and "raise all boats" in society. And you'd have to tell some Leftists to stop trying to exploit the system, that they're now back on their feet, and that they need to put in as much effort as everybody else does.

For Leftists/Rightists stop yelling across the divide at each other, and start talking to each other, trying to understand what is important to them, and see if both sides can meet in the middle on those things that are important to both. Centrists will be happy that the fighting has stopped, and then you'd have to be extra careful not to destroy that non-fighting in trying to move the center to the left.

Oh, and do all of this while we have freedom of speech and people purposely trying to shape the narratives towards what they just want and to F with everybody else. A.k.a., "Free Will is a Pain in the Ass".

Thank you for coming to my 🧸-Talk.

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<Looney Tunes running away in place noises>

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No, more like both 24/7.

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Yeah, I tend to push back a bit, as I wish people would discuss the subject at hand that the comment by me was made about, and not the license that I used in my comment.

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I would argue that its ok to take care of ourselves first and foremost, but ALSO to not stop caring after we're done with ourselves. IMO, its both.

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Well, what in this comment do you consider content?

I consider most of what I type as content that I create. But if its a very simple phrase, like "thank you", something like that, I won't bother with the link, because I also declare everything that I post/command is covered by the same license in my user account information.

And I do appreciate the defence, truly. I just wish I didn't have to talk/type so much about the license/link, vs being able to talk about the subjects that I am commenting in/on instead. Its why I keep referring people to my comment history, if they are being intellectually honest and have an honest curiosity as to why I do it, so that I can talk about the subject at hand instead of CC licenses usage.

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I don't think just thanking someone is real content. /shrug

(Edit: I also declare all that I post/comment is licensed by me as well, in my user account description area.)

But answering someone who thinks they are being funny or annoying, by explaining things to them, would be considered content by me.

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I'm only aware of myself, and the one other person who I learned to do this from, on Lemmy. That was tenish months ago, but still.

I haven't seen anyone else, even the other person I mentioned previously, since having returned to Lemmy recently.

Be nice if you were right, but I haven't seen it really.

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