CmdrKeen @ CmdrKeen @lemmy.today

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Well, I'm glad we had this conversation and wish you all the best for the future. Thank you for your time.

It isn't just the negatives of what they are doing. But also the positives of what I am doing.

That still sounds like you're making it more about you than about them. And if that's the case, you'll likely continue to get subpar results.

Also, this isn't a debate, I'm just presenting you with the same information help me change my mind. And I'm not going to argue about it, you can take it or leave it.

See? Now you know how it feels to be on the other side of what you say you are doing.

The intent is to present snippets of information over a period of time and allow them to connect the dots.

Yes, I understand that, but what I'm telling you that it's a mistake to assume that everyone will process the information you find convincing in the same way that you did, and on top of that, it can come off as an imposition because you're basically asking them to do all of the work you already did on yourself, without offering them much of a benefit in return other than your own satisfaction in being right. And I know this kinda sucks, but sometimes that isn't enough.

Let's take your veganism as an example: if you only present them with reasons for why eating meat is bad, all you'll likely achieve is them feeling bad about their meat habit, but it's likely not enough for them to consider ditching it. In some countries, they make cigarette manufacturers print gruesome pictures of cancerous lungs and stillborn babies over half the front of the package, yet some people still continue to smoke. Sure, I bet that at least some people are scared out of ever trying it, but those who've already acquired a comfortable habit aren't likely to stop, they'll simply avoid looking at the pictures.

If you want to convince someone to at least make an effort, you'll have to give them a little more than that, something they can't get if they continue in their old ways. Like, maybe cook them a killer vegan dish that has them drooling for a week, and offer to teach them how to make it if they're interested. I dated a vegan/vegetarian girl before who knew her way around the kitchen, so I know these recipes exist.

Also, be prepared to compromise and meet them in the middle if necessary (i.e. reducing their meat intake to maybe a few days a week). Despite my outmost love and respect for my ex's mad kitchen skills, I never really managed to ditch the meat habit entirely. No matter how much effort she put in, every now and then, l still found myself with a hole in my stomach only a juicy steak could fill. However, I DID end up eating far less meat than before, and when I did, I could afford to buy much higher quality (grass-fed, organic, free range, etc.), which I think is still a win overall, because it promotes animal welfare by taking the money that would have otherwise gone to gruesome factory farms to responsible, ethical, family farmers that treat their animals with love and respect.

In summary, don't just present people with the negative aspects of their behavior, offer them some real, tangible benefits in return. You catch a lot more flies with honey than with vinegar.

You sure it's not Dunder-Mifflin?

This has a very "facts don't care about your feelings" kinda vibe to it, which I honestly understand, but seems to ignore the fact that feelings don't care about your facts. When people hold irrational opinions, that's by definition not based on objective reality, but likely some sort of personal experience.

Perhaps try asking them where their views come from? Ideally in a non-confrontational way, because they might already be aware of their internal conflicts but too ashamed to admit them. Some people are afraid of water because their parents just threw them in a pool and expected them to figure out how to swim by themselves or something like that. It's not rational from the perspective of someone who learned how to swim in a healthy and normal way, yet it's also kinda rational from the perspective of someone who was traumatized in the process.

Of course, that's not an easy solution because you might have to be willing to do some work in order to help them overcome their trauma (should they be willing to do so), but it probably has a better chance of changing their minds than presenting them with a list of facts has (which is kinda passive-aggressive if you think about it). Of course, they might also say no to your offer, in which case you still have the option to decide where to go from there.

Dunning-Kruger is a hell of a drug.

Kein Problem: https://ddp.im/

I highly doubt it, most frameworks do indeed automatically prevent it these days. Still funny though.

No doubt. git rebase is like a very sharp knife. In the right hands, it can accomplish great things, but in the wrong hands, it can also spell disaster.

As someone who HAS used it a fair amount, I generally don't even recommend it to people unless they're already VERY comfortable with the rest of git and ideally have some sense of how it works internally.

Damn, they must be charging an arm and a leg then, or your firstborn perhaps.

Here's another one, catch!

This isn’t rocket science!

No. It’s computer science.

I’m glad you agree. Honestly, as someone who has also struggled with this question, I wish I’d done this earlier, because there’s a lot of advantages to it.

It takes a lot less planning and upfront time investment before you get to see your work make a difference in the world. It’s not immediate gratification, mind you, because pull requests can sometimes sit there for days or weeks before someone has the time to review them, but when they get merged, and you get to see the feature you worked on in an app you actually use, it’s still a great feeling.

Most projects will also give you contributor credit, so your name and/or GitHub handle will show up on their repo, website, or in the app’s “about” page, and you can claim that on any job application you might submit in the future.

I honestly think it’s a great way to scratch your own itch (because you can pick what issues you want to work on and build features you’d actually want to use) while also helping other people and benefitting open source as a whole. Any reasonably popular project generally has a massive backlog of open issues, so if you’re at a loss where to even start, you can just look through there and pick something that seems doable.

I’m a mathematician by training who has worked extensively (and exclusively) in the software field. While I realize I’m probably biased here, I think I write very solid code and have rarely received any complaints from trained software engineers about it.

I did however also take quite a few computer science classes in college and have spent a lot of time learning how to write better, more readable and maintainable code. Having had quite a few jobs at the start of my career where I was the only programmer on a project and therefore forced to eat my own dog food has certainly also helped.

Instead of starting your own project, have you considered simply contributing to an existing open source project instead?

Yeah, sorry I didn’t realize the post was this old when I responded to it. Not sure why it popped up on my feed right among a bunch of much more recent ones.

This feels like something that was written by an AI, except for the last sentence.

It's been a while since Apollo stopped working and I never even knew about this feature back when it still did, so I have a bit of trouble picturing it. Can you explain HOW this worked, exactly?

When you long pressed on a comment, would it scroll up to the immediate parent, or did it collapse all the other children of the same parent (or only those above the comment you pressed on), or what?