ChonkyOwlbear @ ChonkyOwlbear @lemmy.world

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The capitalists in Russia aren't exactly sitting on their hands either. I'm on team "Fuck the Capitalists" no matter where they come from

https://lemmy.world/comment/17558559

From 1917to 1922 between 7-12 million Russians, mostly civilians, were killed. This includes hundreds of thousands of Jews killed in pogroms (genocidal race riots). The Red Terror involved Bolsheviks conducting executions to wipeout political dissent and any threats to their power. The White Terror involved a collection of conservatives, monarchists, and proto-fascists executing communists and genociding Jews. This doesn't count people who died in forced labor camps, which by some accounts saw a 10-20% fatality rate per month. There were mass rapes and looting wherever the several armies went. It's been described to be as close to Hell on Earth as it gets. Between WWI and the Russian Civil War, the total population fell from around 170 million to 134 million.

Try reading about the Russian Civil War some time.

"Oh, you could only afford one watch?"

Mary Miller represents district 15 which surrounds but does not include both Springfield and St. Louis. It is 90% white, 2.9% black, and 2.8% Hispanic. There are basically no non-Republican elected officials above the county level and voted overwhelmingly for Trump. This district became home of the second resurgence of the KKK in Illinois in the 1920s and has stayed their home through resurgences in the 1950s and 1990s.

your reasoning has become little more than conspiracy theories mixed with bigotry.

Oh please tell me who I am being bigoted towards.

You have absolutely no idea what her financial situation is,

And neither do you. You don't even know what it costs to retain multiple top law offices for years on end.

All it says is that members of the majority group have the same rights to bring discrimination lawsuits as anyone else.

Which reverses previous SC precedent which was put in place to protect minorities.

Jesus Christ, please read what I wrote again because you obviously failed to understand what I was explaining.

Not just any case gets before the SC. They choose cases for a reason, usually because it involves an aspect of the law they wish to clarify or (increasingly commonly) overturn. Special interest groups shop around for cases that they can find a defense for to make the political changes they want (for example Masterpiece Cakeshop v Colorado was funded by Alliance Defending Freedom). As you said this case began in 2017. There is NO WAY a middle manager at a state agency can afford to pay some of the best lawyers in the country for 8 years. She's not some secret billionaire. Yes, her funding is unknown but that's exactly why it is relevant. Dark money groups pushing political agendas are manipulating the justice system.

This woman is just a convenient tool to weaken minority protections. Previous SC precedent from 1973 holds that Title VII cases consider a history of discrimination of groups in question when determining how much evidence is required to prove the case. There is no history of straight discrimination but there is significant past history and current LGBT discrimination. It makes NO SENSE to treat these events as equally probably but that is exactly what overturning this decision does.

This strips protections for LGBT, black, disabled people, non-Christians, and other protected minority groups. Now to prove they are discriminated against, they cannot rely on the well-proven precedent of this fact. This makes discrimination against these groups easier which of course is the point of all this anti-DEI stuff. It is Christian white supremacy in action.

I know the white part doesn't matter because the actual suit is for being straight alone. The justices (unnecessarily) added the discussion of race.

I know the suit is an attack on DEI because it made it to the Supreme court. It takes years and tens (or hundreds) of thousands of dollars to maintain a court case. Private individuals usually can't afford this. The client, who works for the Ohio Department of Youth services, certainly couldn't. Most SC cases are funded by special interest groups looking to push a particular change in the law. Trump and the Conservatives have made it very clear that they are against DEI because it makes it harder to discriminate against minorities. This decision weakens the protections for those groups.

I know she's awful because no decent person would bring such an obviously bigoted suit.

The white part doesn't even matter. This is just an awful person blaming DEI for their failures.

I would bet she was passed over for the promotion because of her attitude, because you have to be an awful person to sue for this.

Sorry, but it's absurd to claim all socialists voted for one candidate. The KDP was a minor party in the Weimar period after the failed Spartacist uprising, getting only about 10% of the vote. Many socialists, especially war veterans, were social Democrats who were anti-communist (anti-Bolshevik really). They flocked to Hitlers nationalist, anti-banker (aka Jew), pro-veteran rhetoric. Once Hitler had gained power, he no longer needed the socialist elements of the party and purged them to make way for his authorization takeover.

(Note that I am absolutely not anti-socialist. Quite the opposite really. I just recognize that people are fallible and socialists have fucked up in the part too)

Normally I would never say a woman slept her way to the top, but this is Trump we are talking about. None of these people legitimately earned their cabinet positions.

Not really. The National Socialist Party drew in strong socialist support with its talk of uniting the workers and a strong social support system. The fascists used the socialist's votes to gain power and then betrayed them on the Night of Long Knives. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives

We could argue the semantics of different philosophies all day. The point is that everyone has to put their differences aside to fight fascism.

And what were the socialists in Germany doing in the lead up to WW2? (Hint: what is Nazi short for?)

This is factually untrue if you learn history. The only times fascism was defeated is when capitalists, socialists, anarchists, liberals, leftists, etc join together against fascism.

There aren't a lot of companies selling high quality Nazi flags. Bargain bin polyester stays creased like that forever unless you iron it.

We could debate this all day, but it is irrelevant to the question of democracy. If we want democracy, everyone must band together to fight fascism. Fascism kills democracy.

True, but most if not all of those positions need congressional approval of the next person holding the position. It doesn't transfer automatically. The approval process can drag on for months. I think one or two are still "acting" secretaries under Trump.

I was curious how far down the line of succession you would have to go to find someone who would not be a catastrophically bad president. 11 positions down is the Secretary of Labor, Lori Chavez-DeRemer. She's a Hispanic woman who was one of 6 Republican house members who signed a pledge to respect the results of the 2024 election, the only Republican cosponsor of a pro- union bill, and opposes a national Bank on abortion or IVF. Far from Ideal but light years better than the rest of the fascists on the list