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  • See you keep saying "defending a Nazi". I keep saying "you're torching the personal property of people who are not Elon Musk and who likely innocently bought the vehicle". If you're just going to talk right past me and start talking about Musk when I'm talking about individual workers, I don't see how this is a real conversation at all.

    But just to be clear: torching Teslas that Musk already got paid for does not hurt him.

  • Only if I buy a Tesla.

    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

    Yes, you are the villain here.

  • You could petition for adoption of an EV plug that isn't Tesla's. You could ask to have the Tesla supercharger network be declared anti-competitive and force Musk to divest. Bonus points if you can convince people it should be a public good.

    Lots of moves could be made. Instead you advocate for bashing the fash by... Burning cars owned by workers? And somehow you fail to see how this is not just morally and logically wrong, it also harms the view of leftists in the eyes of the public?

    Are you a real person or do you glow?

  • I hadn't even considered that this is causing the used market to drop out. We could be urging people who otherwise couldn't or wouldn't to adopt EVs. Could turn the negative into a positive.

    Nope the "activists" say, burn em all.

  • I don't own one, but when I was considering which EV to buy they were on the list. I could have easily been just another Tesla owner, now getting their car burnt to a crisp or getting spray painted with Nazi symbols.

    I am a unpaid union executive. I volunteer my time to groups like a Right-to-Repair advocacy organization. If the shitheads burning cars could get this motivated about these or other issues, we'd be knocking problems over like dominoes. Instead "activism" for a lot of people now means complaining on the internet and destroying the property of workers.

    Frankly people need to take that type of activism and fuck right off with it. Do some real work or go home and let the adults figure it out.

  • Read this thread man. People have become fucking deranged, cheering on destroying the property of people who likely had no reason to believe they'd be making car payments to a Nazi.

    Frankly if you're not out canvassing for politicians you support or helping organize a union or something but you can find the time to cheer on the destruction of what is likely a worker's property, you need to get a grip.

  • I live in the Ottawa region and the attitude around here is simply that Trump handed the Liberals the win. I don't think this election is unsalvageable for the Conservatives (and frankly I think it's dangerous to think so) but they've got a mountain to climb, that's for sure.

    Ontario's demographic in Toronto and Ottawa could be summed up as "urban conservative". Interestingly many of them think of themselves as left-wing or progressive and think the same of the Liberals. The reality is very different: they view public servants, the poor, and any other right-wing punching bags as undesirables, they protest any efforts to get housing built, and they even harass striking workers. But hey they're down with "the gays" so they're forward thinking right?

  • Business that stole everyone's information to train a model complains that businesses can steal information to train models.

    Yeah I'll pour one out for folks who promised to open-source their model and then backed out the moment the money appeared... Wankers.

  • 100%. Everyone talks a lot of shit about Musk and how he runs X, but Dorsey was doing the dirty work of authoritarians before that and censoring people on Twitter constantly. A non-trivial amount of Twitter staff came right out of the alphabet agencies.

    X is not special, the mask is just off now.

  • MakeCode and the other Scratch-based visual coding systems I included make for a good way to get the basics in a way that isn't tied exclusively to any platform or product.

    Having python to use once you start hitting the limits of visual coding gives you those properly transferable skills without being tied to Roblox and its extremely abusive practices.

    This whole ecosystem is much more approachable than just slinging random Lua scripts.

  • Roblox's tooling is so particular to Roblox that it is hard to transfer the knowledge out of the game.

    Microsoft MakeCode can use Scratch or Python and connect with Minecraft, Lego Mindstorm, and a few other things. The same style of visual coding system shows up in a lot of other devices and their software, like the Makey Makey, Makeblock's educational robots, etc.. I think those are better choices personally.

  • who the fuck was giving out free hormones

    I didn't say they were giving out free hormones. I said they were giving them out much more freely than they should have. Gender dysphoria is real but in a significant number of cases it has been identified as a symptom of other problems rather than the actual source, and it often resolves after resolving the underlying issues. Multiple countries have acknowledged this after extensive review and modified how they deliver care to be much more reserved about who is given puberty blockers and hormones.

    Also studies show puberty blockers are not nearly as safe for long-term use as we were lead to believe, and indeed the ones on the market were never approved to be used that way. It was an off-label use and that is kind of absurd for an official treatment model.

    people with genetic conditions take hormones because thier bodies cant produce any

    I didn't say there are no other reasons people take hormones. Gender dysphoria is itself a valid reason, when actually properly observed by medical professionals who are not zealots.

    the mask issue wasnt evena big deal

    For you. For others it was viewed as a government attempting to dehumanize them and strip them of their freedom. While I think they were being a bit dramatic, the fact is that the way to deal with this was not to mock them. You build a connection, establish trust, and show them why we need to work together.

    When the evidence became clear that droplet theory was actually based on nothing at all (seriously it was a misunderstanding) and that cloth masks (not fitted N95s, cloth masks) actually cannot block COVID particles, there was no longer any reason to force people to wear them. Did liberals react to this with reason? Nope, it became an overly dramatic tribal issue the same way it was with the conservative folks.

    you are arguing in bad faith

    lol