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Ah yes “the states”…

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy/

The late, legendarily brutal campaign consultant Lee Atwater explains how Republicans can win the vote of racists without sounding racist themselves:

“You start out in 1954 by saying, “removed, removed, removed.” By 1968 you can’t say “removed”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “removed, removed.”

Other way around big guy.

And yet he won in a race against Biden and against Hillary. What the fuck is wrong with the numbers or people either or both are fucked up…

“Genocide commenter”

This is the world laughing at you…

We’ve been living in it. It’s happening.

Ok so wtf?

“Why aren’t you as genocidal as my family!”

Next to….

“I’m trying to fuck my daughter as hard as I can!”

The rest of us….

We’re at a point where we can’t say how secure or insecure the border is. Saying dems haven’t secured anything is a meaningless statement while republicans state immigrant hordes are eating dogs and cats…

Meanwhile democrats recognize the absurdity of painting immigrants with that brush while trying to be sensible with border policy given the line being fed to you folks about eating dogs all while you say any border action on behalf of dems is akin to masked ice agents trafficking mothers in broad daylight…

All of this is you letting trump dictate terms

I’m not setting anything up. You’re just clearly not supporting anything. And Biden or Harris’ admin never treated immigrants like this ever.

So that’s a picture, not a source… and more importantly are you implying that a green line equals number of masked randos kidnapping people?

Or does that line equal deportations which isn’t necessarily a terrible thing.

Does that green line represent in fact a better policing of the border which was then denied by conservatives in an effort to now kidnap people by masked randos?

Ooo ooo like Rick Scott?

I kid, republicans don’t have to worry about the “law”.

What role does a VP have over ICE?

How is anything I said “loaded”?

They don’t campaign on that?

“They’re eating the dogs and your cats…”

“There is a mass horde attacking our border…”

Republicans did. They did more or less make an enemy of immigrants, shape them into an “other” and now we’re starting to see citizens getting treated like immigrants and citizenship being eroded all while you say “well maybe dems don’t literally campaign on X…”

Didn’t vote though…

No it wouldn’t. It’s bad enough.

I’m thinking back of experiencing decades of democrats in office… democrats have never been against immigrants like you characterize them to be. Tell me how Obama did this. Republicans are no where near current or past democrats no matter how desperate you are to paint them with the same brush. You are painting a false picture.

Reality bears that this shit has never been needed. Democrats have never done what is happening now and you painting it as the same or a matter of “vibes” is white -washing REAL problems.

You have missed the point of history in an effort to make your “vibes” a thing… why are you so desperate to tell everyone that dems did shit they never have, all while republicans are doing that very thing right now?

In what world is advocating for border security akin to rendering folks by masked individuals and trafficking them to foreign countries without due process…?

What democrat has ever advocated for ice to do what they’re currently doing?

Pointing to how democrats advocating that strengthening our border doesn’t require kidnapping…

Well you don’t really have a point do you?

Do you remember the time she mentioned an immigrant horde coming to eat your dogs and cats?

Remember when as VP she directed ICE to render folks unconstitutionally and under masks?

I don’t cause you’re full of shit

Operating on “vibes” is you saying you don’t care.

“In terms of vibes” equals “however I feel”… so if you don’t feel like being an adult… then cool no vibes or mojo should make you feel icky…

Merely deporting someone isn’t so terrible an act. Hell Cheech and Chong had a joke about calling immigration on themselves whenever there was a wedding back in Mexico cause it got them a free ride and sandwich.

This shit is different.