Bernie_Sandals @ Bernie_Sandals @lemmy.world

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No, I don't think Biden is that stupid.

Every single press briefing where I've seen the word Genocide mentioned the Executive branch has firmly denied that description. The official position of the Biden administration is that there's possibly war crimes, but no genocide.

No. It's genocide and anyone who says it isn't knows better and supports it.

And your standard is? Because if most of the world and literally every court is calling it not a genocide or "Idk yet if genocide" then I don't see how "Anyone who says it isn't knows better". That sounds just like something you tell yourself to write off everyone critical as malicious genocide lovers.

Gloat harder that the US keeps abusing its veto to hobble any investigation into the genocide you refuse to call a genocide.

No country has a veto on ICJ decisions. What are you talking about? The U.S. isn't even a member of the ICJ.

Oh ffs. You just trust them because you love how they're enabling genocide.

Again assuming I love genocide or anything that's happening in Gaza, I don't, I just believe, as a member of a group that has been genocided before and could be again, that there needs to be a higher bar than 1 month and 10k casualties in to start screaming Genocide. There hasn't even been a single investigation yet and people are burning themselves alive because of the rhetoric.

War fucking sucks, and this may be many peoples first time seeing it, but this isn't special for war, kids die in bombings all the fucking time and it's depressing, but we didn't call the children bombed by Assad in Aleppo genocide victims, we didn't call the Chechens in Grozny genocide victims, we didn't call the Vietnamese in Hue genocide victims, we didn't call the Greeks expelled from Turkey and Turks expelled from Greece genocide victims.

Yet, as soon as it's Israel, it gets politically loaded, and people suddenly become bigger genocide experts than the ICJ.

Do you have a source for this?

Last time I checked almost every historian agreed they were almost all tombs.

Have you ever considered that the White House doesn't consider it a genocide? Just a normal war with an above average amount of war crimes.

If you understand that position (their stated position) every action they take makes perfect sense under that perspective.

Now you can argue if it's genocide or not, that's up to the ICJ but currently the whitehouse has more information than any of us and they don't consider it one.

If supporting terrorism invalidates you then literally every single group in the middle east is guilty.

There's probably a better metric than hurting civilians in one of the most war-torn regions of the world.

Perhaps we can use who has been killing Fascists and who has been buying oil from them. Uh oh that makes the anarchists in the SDF the good guys.

Serious question: Are anti-material rifles commonly used by cartels?

Yes but for different uses than a normal gun would be used for. The Mexican police and army have been trotting out more of their armored vehicles to try and combat the cartels. .50 Cals and other anti-material rifles function as the counter to those armored vehicles while being a lot cheaper than a smuggled rocket launcher.

You can find lots of videos of them using them, especially on reddit, can't exactly remember what sub though, Cartel stuff is banned from r/combatfootage

You must not know how much influence the US has over Israel. It literally takes one phone call to reign in Israel and Netanyahu to stop their reign genocidal campaign.

And you say this because??? Oh because you heard it once and now you parrot it fucking everywhere even though it couldn't be further than the truth. Israel is not a puppet of the U.S, and the U.S can't just control it.

The US has repeatedly shot down Palestinian voices calling for a peace deal,

Because literally every peace deal Hamas has offered has been "Leave Gaza and let us prepare to do another October 7th"

Rafah was supposed to Biden’s “red line” and now that’s being invaded as well.

I literally watched the State Department press briefing on this last night, they're still condemning any action towards Rafah, and Israel hasn't even fully moved into Rafah yet, just issued an evacuation order, which even that the Biden Admin condemned for not being thought through enough.

Seems like you really should be reading up more on how influential US foreign policy really is instead of clinging to democratic talking points meant to deflect from complicity in this event.

I have and it's not that influential, earlier in the 2000s Israel was pulling the same sort of shit in Gaza, Bush blocked their weapons (Just as Biden has already done) and Israel just kept on doing it's war crimey thing.

Because he’s the one signing multibillion dollar aid packages with our tax dollars funding a genocide and literally ignoring calls for ceasefire. I mean, the only way you don’t know that is if you’re living under a rock.

I know that certain media sources love to put it this way, but Biden has not been ignoring calls for ceasefire Blinken has literally been the one setting up most of the Ceasefire proposals that Hamas has constantly shot down. But I'm sure you know Hamas has been an opponent of peace at every step, just as they bombed the southern border crossing where aid was starting to come through, Hamas doesn't care about the people of Gaza, it wants to cling to power at any chance, even if that means starving a city on international TV to try and bring the world against Israel.

white supremacy and fascism

Oh yeah? And how are they doing that?

Shunning him for having the blood of 20k kids on his hands is not “fixating”.

Even accepting your numbers, why is the blame entirely on Biden for this? I've seen far more hate for Biden than Netanyahu on here, and yet Biden is literally the only reason aid has gotten through again after the Israeli blockade, Biden is the only reason Israel is practicing any restraint at all, Biden is the only reason that there's even a hope of a ceasefire or lasting peace.

Seems really like you should be blaming the far right government actually carrying out the war, and not the centre-left government an ocean away whose been trying to walk the line between scolding Netanyahu at every turn, and also trying not to piss off the 60% of the country that supports Israel.

It's almost as if they don't exactly care or pay attention to actual reforms in the country, and are just pissed off at a politician because he hasn't unilaterally ended a war being conducted by two other countries.

Banning .50 caliber weapons without discussing any other calibers, as if .51 and .49 are both substantially safer.

Don't think they have a problem with the caliber... I think they have a problem with a popular American anti-vehicle rifle easily being acquired by the Cartels.

There's no super popular and known of .49 or .51 caliber, but if Barrett made one I'm sure they'd try to ban it too.

In what way is anyone here defending the status quo by calling Trump a fascist? Pretty sure the only people really doing that are Progressive and Socialist Democrats, who do absolutely not defend the status quo.

That feeling when you're so brain fucked by the cold war actions of the U.S that the Authoritarian reactionary hellscape is good apparently.

Pretty sure this is North Korea not China

Biden is right of Reagan.

On which policies?

Dems are not in favor of legalization.

Then why has literally every single legalization come from democrats?

Can we uplift quality journalism that is also not filled with bought and paid for journalists and media.

The problem is that even completely independent journalists that take no ad revenue run into the issue of being captured by their audience.

If an independent journalist doesn't have a diverse audience, then anything that doesn't confirm that non-diverse audience's biases will face backlash, essentially repeating the issue of journalist's leaning on their careers instead of truth, but the enforcement mechanism is based around viewership/donation numbers and not corporate money.

Saddam was the state structure it wasn't like some organic thing existed through a shared nationalist identity.

Oh you've misunderstood what I've said. Sadam definitely wasn't some good leader that united the country, and I know we helped put him in power to stop the Iraqi Communists.

I'm just saying that the oppression had effectively held the country together for decades, and so when we arrived, stuff was a little more stable, and then we fucked it up.

Afghanistan had already been going through a civil war for a long, long, time. I wasn't making any value judgements like "Saddam is good", I was simply saying that Iraq was an easier situation than Afghanistan.

And that you mention books, not (just) the internet as a source

Yeah it took be forever to start actually reading, I feel like only ever really reading when being forced to throughout all of school makes a lot of people wanna avoid it after they've graduated. Eventually I got sick of having only a wikipedia level depth of knowledge on cold war poverty in the U.S., so I bought Michael Harringtons "The Other America" and my library has grown exponentially since.

(was it me/my youth, or the school that made it seem boring? :D)

Almost definitely school lol, I feel like the whole learning through "Great history man did ____ on ____ day remember it for the test" really alienates people and makes it super hard to feel connected to or interested in any of it.

One thing I definitely remember being drilled into us back then was that we must be constantly vigilant to protect our rights, or we'll lose them. How true that turned out to be! We're on the verge of losing so much right now. :(

Maybe this was something else that changed or the deep south is just different, but I never really heard the importance of defending our rights as a kid (Unless that meant allegedly defending them from random groups in the Middle East).

Down here it was much more of a "Our country is the greatest and the free-est and everyone is jealous of us for our unexstinguishable freedoms" type of thing, and then most of us woke up in 2016 and realized that wasn't true.

Libertarian did use to be a synonym of anarchist.

Murray Rothbard ruined that.

Gen Z'er here. I graduated high school without ever even having the option of a civics class. Everything I've learned about civics has been from history class and independent reading of wikipedia/books.

Yeah I was aware of the other ethnic/religious groups in Iraq, but haven't done enough research into them (except the Yazidis, ISIS made us get exposed to them in the west). I know about the Iraqi kurds and the factionalist fights they have, so it would make sense if the rest of the country was similar.

My point was really that a state structure already existed in Iraq, all the U.S. had to do was seize it while not damaging it too much in the process. (Or doing something stupid like idk firing the entire military and all the teachers and anyone remotely tied to Baathism) Afghanistan would've taken far, far, far, more effort.

the fact that you basically gave the country to the iranian backed political groups which forms the backbone of a lot of political parties - security forces and businesses clashing with the rest of the very diverse iraqi society whether shia or sunni.

Possibly a bigger mistake than invading in the first place. Not completely sure how it could've been avoided without an endless occupation, but there had to have been a better solution than letting them fund opposition groups, and then letting them be one of the key military components against ISIS with the PMF system.