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Edit: Sweet! Kirby got banned from lemmygrad for their obvious bigotry, making this comment entirely pointless, you love to see it, hell yeah!

Go back and read my first comment in the thread, the long one, and tell me which bits of it are "denying reality".

Ok, thanks, this clears up your position!

You're extremely fucking transphobic and need to work on not being like that.

Ok, so being born with ambiguous genitalia is a deformity in your mind? Do you think that infants born with ambiguous genitalia should undergo surgery to make their genitalia fit cisnormative ideals?

And I have to ask, just so we're extremely clear, what do you, you personally, mean by "sex"? How do you determine who is male and who is female? What criteria are you using to sort people into these two categories?

So you're saying gametes determine sex and anyone who doesn't produce gametes has no sex. Cool. That's fine, and a reasonable way to define "sex", if we must do so.

Your definition of sex isn't a common one, most people who care to try and define sex don't like saying that people can have no sex at all, which is what you're saying.

I clearly said in my comment that every human produces at most one of two possible types of gamete, so I don't know why you spent so many sentences talking about a hypothetical third gamete, I'm well aware there's no such thing.

I'm also going to emphasize, once again, that genitals don't always match gametes and, furthermore, don't always fit cleanly into either penis or vulva, lots of people are born with ambiguous genitalia.

the stuff we all have between legs, that definitely defines sex.

Ok, but like, it doesn't. See this comment I made yesterday.

Edit: I'm actually going to copy the comment here, so no one has to click on a link to read it:

What do we mean by "sex"?

Do we mean chromosomes? If so, there aren't two sexes, there are a whole bunch, look at the list on this Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_chromosome_anomalies

Do we mean genitals? If so, again, there aren't two distinct sexes, instead it's more of a spectrum between "this is obviously a penis" and "this is obviously a vulva". In fact, infants with genitals that can't be neatly classified as a penis or a vulva frequently have surgery forced upon them and these (completely unnecessary) surgeries cause all sorts of issues later in life.

Do we mean hormonal profile? Again, it's not as straightforward as testosterone = male, estrogen = female. The endocrine system is wildly complicated and the ratios of sex hormones people have can vary wildly. A person's hormonal profile is also extremely changeable, which is something shitty right-wingers don't want "biological sex" to be.

Do we mean size of gametes? This is the only option that even remotely makes sense, because it is true that in humans there are only two kinds of gametes, small gametes (sperm) and large gametes (eggs). Furthermore, there has never been a case of a human who produces both eggs and sperm, every human produces at most one of the two. But lots of people are completely infertile, producing no gametes. So if by "sex" we mean the size of gametes someone produces, then there are a whole lot of people who are sexless because they produce no gametes.

But ok, size of gamete produced almost works as a definition of "sex". So maybe we could look at the gonads in people who don't produce gametes and make a determination of their sex that way. Well, it turns out that doesn't work either, because there are people with both ovarian tissue and testicular tissue, and sometimes these tissues are even mixed together in the same organ (called "streak gonads").

So what are we left with? Nothing. There's nothing to "sex", it's a meaningless term. Listen to any shitty right-winger try and define "biological sex" and you'll hear them eventually say something like "a male is someone whose reproductive system is geared towards producing sperm". But what does that mean? Fuck all, I'd say. What shitty right-wingers mean is "a female is someone who I think is a woman". They're all of them, to a person, talking about gender every time they say "biological sex". They'll deny it, but ask them about intersex people, or people with ambiguous genitalia or streak gonads, and you'll get nonsense in response.

I've whiled away many a hilarious hour reading terfs (on ovarit, before it shutdown) arguing about which particular intersex people count as women. They never agree, there is no "party line", it's all vibes and always has been.

I specifically time my pedestrian trips so as to avoid rush hour if possible. Why? Because of the number of times I've been almost flattened by a car trying to turn right at a busy intersection and literally not checking for pedestrians before hand. And then they look at me like I'm the asshole for trying to cross the road when I very clearly have the right of way. It's bleak out here for those of us who use walking as a method of transportation!

Well see, here you have good proof that chatGPT isn't actually "the best knowledge retrieving tool at the moment". ChatGPT (and every other LLM) suuuucks at complicated math, because these text extruders don't reason. Seriously, try out some more complicated math problems. I think you'll find chatGPT gets most of them wrong, and in infuriating ways that make very little sense.

I don't disagree that we need better math instruction for students. I've been saying this since I was a student. But using chatGPT being horrible at math as evidence of this is, well, ridiculous, frankly. ChatGPT's performance isn't based on how well your average high schooler understands something, and I don't know why you're trying to tie those two very different things together.

It's pretty annoying to read the mailing list, I agree. There's a very small hyperlink that says "next" that's right below the message body. If you click that, you can read the next message in the chain. Keep doing that until you get to the end, and yeah, it looks like this was resolved and wasn't actually malicious.

You mean blinx? They deleted their own account, of their own accord.

There's a TON of media that corroborates the information

Post one (1) thing then. Literally a single thing. You've said some version of "of course I have sources for my beliefs" in quite a few comments, but every time anyone asks you to post just one, a single source, you refuse, saying something like "you wouldn't believe me anyway". Do you see how that's not convincing? Do you understand how that makes us think you actually haven't really thought through your beliefs and have actually just inherited them from the propaganda environment you exist in?

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Yup, you got dog-piled, which really doesn't feel good.

From where I'm sitting though, you might be able to learn a little something from this situation. What I would take away from this experience, if I were you, is something like "I should try to avoid arguments on the internet about topics I don't know much about". It's a tricky lesson to learn, and one I have to keep learning, but I think it's valuable. If you don't know much about a topic, sit back and listen and until you know more about it. Don't come into a space guns blazing and then be forced to backtrack just about everything you've said due to it becoming obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.

It's hard, this world tries to convince us we have to have "a take" about everything. But we don't. We can keep space in our minds to listen to people who know more than us, we can hold a claim "at arm's length" until we have the time and knowledge to properly evaluate it.

Good luck, please do consider the things people have tried to tell you here today. Some great information has been shared for you to read and spend time digesting, and I for one hope you take the opportunity to do so.

Oh, not for me. I almost never actually watch videos that get posted, and I haven't watched this one.

I was simply pointing out that the lovely piece of writing RedWizard posted is worth reading, and that you calling it "low-effort copypasta" is ridiculous. I then, right at the end of my comment, speculated as to a specific reason why you might want to dismiss RedWizard's piece as "low-effort copypasta".

videos like this

What video? Do you have me mixed up with someone else in this thread?

Is it low-effort? It sure looks high-effort to me. There are a ton of sources (some of them I hadn't read before), it's written really well, and organized quite nicely. Sure, it's clearly copy-pasted, RedWizard didn't write it fresh for this post, but like, so? If it's good info written and sourced well, why not post it every time the question comes up? Someone new will see it every time, and they might dig into the sources and become more knowledgeable because of how well-organized and well-sourced this copy-pasted super informational post is.

What would you have had RedWizard post instead? A less well-organized piece that he wrote specifically for this comment thread? Something off-the-cuff and not so informative? Or maybe you wanted him to just post nothing. Perhaps you just expected everyone here to simply agree with you about the situation in Xinjiang, without doing any research of our own. Is that it? You wanted to come in here and parrot something you've heard other people say, not expecting any pushback. But then you got presented with contradictory evidence, so you called it low-effort to allow yourself to ignore it?

I'm going to try to be respectful and reasonable here. If I fail at that, I'm truly sorry, I'm really trying.

I think you and I want different things from the fediverse. I like that my instance (Hexbear) is widely defederated. It's a lovely little refuge from the reactionary political opinions I can't help but hear in my day to day life living in America.

I also can't agree with you that political disagreements aren't reason for defederation. To go for an extreme example first, being an avowed neo-nazi is a political choice, and I'd kick an avowed neo-nazi out of any space I had the power to kick them out of.

For other examples, we can look at things that have already happened in the fediverse, such as feddit .uk deciding that posting transphobia is actually fine and dandy, because the laws in the UK are such that transphobic speech is very much allowed, or we can look at the recent kerfuffle surrounding feddit .org, wherein feddit .org decided that due to laws in Germany, criticism of Israel can't be as full-throated as it really should be. These examples are both cases where local politics affect how things are moderated, or, at least, local politics are being used as an excuse for moderation decisions. And I think these moderation decisions (allowing transphobia in the first case, censoring criticism of Israel in the second) are worth defederating over. If transphobia doesn't get banned and removed on sight, then how can trans people feel safe and included in a space? And similarly, if Israel's horrific genocide is downplayed in a space, that space becomes less friendly for Palestinians and other Arab and Muslim people.

I don't need or want political plurality in this online space, I want a brief refuge from the terrible politics surrounding me. This isn't me sticking my head in the sand to ignore the awful shit happening around me, I see all that, I talk to people who believe in the American status quo because believe it or not, most Americans aren't communists. I love that here on this corner of Lemmy I can be openly communist and talk to other open communists about all kinds of things. It's really nice, actually, and that would be lost if we were federated with the anti-communist shitholes like .world. Not to mention the transphobia. Holy shit, every time I accidentally end up outside my lovely little Lemmy bubble it's just transphobia as far as the eye can see. So I'm glad we at Hexbear are widely defederated, I really don't need to see the liberal nonsense and transphobia that are so inescapable in my real life.

I didn't know about this! I already use rofi for a few different things, so I'm going to get rofi-calc working too, it'll fit perfectly into my workflow. Thanks!

This comment is chock full of misogyny, with some transphobia sprinkled in for good measure. You should reconsider your beliefs. Feminists aren't the reason liberalism is the dominant political ideology in the US, come on, that should be obvious.