I agree that it shouldn't be an extreme either way. Like you mentioned, it's crazy that the Happy Birthday song is still copyrighted. It was composed by two people, and the last of the two composers of that song died in 1946 . The last creator has been dead since the year after WWII ended, and the song is still copyrighted.
On the other hand, I think that having time-specific copyright is still very important for a lot of artists and creators. If anyone can create and sell merchandise based on you, you'll lose control of your brand image/reputation. If no one has to pay for creative work, it won't be reasonable to continue that art/passion for many people. If artists, authors and the like can't make income from their work, they'll have to spend their time at a regular job instead of working on the next cool thing. That also means that we probably won't get the next cool thing.
Most people don't want to work hard on something just for someone else can take credit for it, even on a small scale. I think that that's reasonable, especially for creative works. If it was actually easy to create these things, everyone probably would, no? If creating art is as effortless as some people claim, those people should have no problem respecting those copyright protections. They can just easily make their own, right?
I feel terrible for the people who have worked on their craft for their whole life, as now they're having to worry about losing the protections that let them do their thing.
There's no way that only regular people would take advantage of copyright protections dissapearing. This would probably turn into many "artist vs xy corporation " scenarios, but it would also be in more places than just music. Can you imagine the implications for other industries? Big companies would totally just steal ideas and works from small businesses. Not having copyright laws would mean that the law would be on the big companies side, and that the small business owner would be screwed.
Think of it like a social contract. If you don't play by the "rules", you're not protected by those same "rules". If someone is intolerant, it's silly for that person to expect people to extend them the same courtesy that they themselves refuse to extend to others. Hypocritical, too.
It's kind of like the free speech thing. Maybe you could talk about grass for days on end, but that wouldn't mean that anyone would have to listen to you talk about grass for days on end.
You summed a lot of their points up into one blunt sentence, which also implies that you were not actually looking for discussion here.
Comments like this are almost like a different flavour of a downvote.
Your comment had no counter arguments, no questions, no sources or reasonings, no related points, but instead it's just a very shortened "quote" of what you were responding to.
Your comment also didn't really actually add anything to the discussion other than showing that you think of that person's comment negatively, just like a downvote would have shown.
I would like to start off with apologizing for if this comes off harshly.
I respect that you were a mod for a community that size, but I'm not really sure that I can give that much credit without knowing more. Reddit had all kinds of mods. Good mods, bad mods, sleeping mods, controlling mods, chill mods, etc. Reddit hasn't exactly had much of a great reputation for many of it's mods and admins, you know? I've seen some very bizarre things happen on that website in the past regarding certain mods, to put it one way.
Since this is a different platform with different groundwork, I would imagine that the tools would probably be at least a little bit different. Maybe the mods who used to moderate 24/7 have decided to spend more of their time on their hobbies or with their loved ones. Maybe they are on a different platform. Maybe they got bored of moderating, who knows.
I think that we should make sure that we keep human expectations for people if we want to keep our mods good and happy. I think that that's another way that Reddit really messed up. Reddit's 24/7 pressure to constantly moderate probably led to a lot of mods becoming burnt out. If people try to treat volunteers as employees, they're likely to lose many of those volunteers. I mean, these people are already going our of their way to help contribute.
I have to say, I see a hell of a lot more "other people need to do xy " on this thread, than I see "I think x is missing. I'll help add it!".
What profit are they making from people aside from voluntary donations that get used to keep the server running? How is Lemmyworld a company to you, and not an instance run by an individual?
The person running the instance could hypothetically just kick everyone off tomorrow, and there would be feck all anyone could do about it.
These comments are wild. At the end of the day, if we really dislike the actions of our instance, we can just change to a different one, or self host. Does it suck? Yes.
I don't think I can reasonably expect someone else to tailor their own instance that they created and paid for to my specific interests. A previous instance wasn't to my liking, so I just made a new account somewhere else. Isn't that supposed to be the whole point?
"If everyone defederates with everyone there will be no content". Well, it's a good thing that it's not everyone defederating with everyone.
I think that maybe the people who are really upset about defederating should try to host their own instances and act as admins for those instances. I totally understand wanting to do your own thing with the amount of time and effort that stuff requires.
Personally? I'm still pleasantly suprised/happy that so many people have created instances that they opened to the world. I also feel lucky that people are putting in a lot of effort to make places that anyone -even complete strangers- could join. I'm happy that there are a wide variety of instances.
I mean, if the concern is public health, I don't see why not. To be honest, I'm actually kind of suprised that they haven't yet. Cannabis, too.
It might be a bit of a pain for companies to re-fit their labelling machines with the new labels, but after the hypothetical switch there would probably be nearly no difference in terms of manufacturing. Waiting for the labels to arrive would probably take the longest.
I personally think it's a neat little tid-bit. It adds to the conversation, and it's information that a lot of people probably don't know. They weren't being rude, harsh, or condescending. They were just sharing something they know about the topic.
It's depressing as shit. I'm with you on previously thinking that we were making progress.
I detest that this is still happening, and I loathe the people who are still doing it. It might be judgemental, but at least I judge people based on their actions against others instead of what they look like.
Yes, but you can also still care about doing that without having children. I hope that this doesn't follow those trends.
People can also love nature, animals, history, the arts, and lots of other things. They might want other people to still be able to enjoy the things that they love in the future. I would still care regardless of if I have kids or not, personally.
It's not even that Gen Z doesn't care. Many of us just hit a point where everything feels numb. You can only get so upset/depressed/etc until your brain just kind of shuts down a bit.
There's grief over everything that we'll probably never get to see/have. There's grief over the backsliding of progress that actually seemed real to us at one point. There's grief over the many people who just die, everywhere, for terrible and avoidable reasons. There are many animals we will already never get to see.
Everywhere you look, people almost seem to feel pride in not knowing things. One member of Gen Z managed to have her voice heard about the planet, and she was ridiculed by grown adults. Multiple governments are now trying to decrease education, and some people somehow see that as a good thing. Wildfires are blazing like never before, the smoke is totally hazing new areas, yet people still refuse to see. Why is Gen Z expected to be the magical cure to global warming? People won't even listen to Greta! We're just as human as any other generation. Of course we'll try, but the focus on solving the climate problem should have already been happening generations ago. Just THINK of all the progress we could have already made!
Lucky us, huh? We're also regularly encouraged to shove all of these emotions down because we could not possibly have similar problems to older adults. Fuck that, respectfully.
Yeah, I've got to say, sometimes it's damn hard to have any hope.
I do think more of us need to vote, even if it only feels like there's a 3% chance that something actually changes for the better...
I agree that it shouldn't be an extreme either way. Like you mentioned, it's crazy that the Happy Birthday song is still copyrighted. It was composed by two people, and the last of the two composers of that song died in 1946 . The last creator has been dead since the year after WWII ended, and the song is still copyrighted.
On the other hand, I think that having time-specific copyright is still very important for a lot of artists and creators. If anyone can create and sell merchandise based on you, you'll lose control of your brand image/reputation. If no one has to pay for creative work, it won't be reasonable to continue that art/passion for many people. If artists, authors and the like can't make income from their work, they'll have to spend their time at a regular job instead of working on the next cool thing. That also means that we probably won't get the next cool thing.
Most people don't want to work hard on something just for someone else can take credit for it, even on a small scale. I think that that's reasonable, especially for creative works. If it was actually easy to create these things, everyone probably would, no? If creating art is as effortless as some people claim, those people should have no problem respecting those copyright protections. They can just easily make their own, right?
I feel terrible for the people who have worked on their craft for their whole life, as now they're having to worry about losing the protections that let them do their thing.
There's no way that only regular people would take advantage of copyright protections dissapearing. This would probably turn into many "artist vs xy corporation " scenarios, but it would also be in more places than just music. Can you imagine the implications for other industries? Big companies would totally just steal ideas and works from small businesses. Not having copyright laws would mean that the law would be on the big companies side, and that the small business owner would be screwed.