The Biden Admin Is Trying to Guarantee a Forever War in Ukraine
Amoxtli @ Amoxtli @thelemmy.club Posts 76Comments 207Joined 1 yr. ago
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Not all of us want to believe in lies. Russia is not a threat. Russia seized being a threat when the USSR dissolved. This is why NATO was able to expand despite Russian objections throughout the decades. Ukraine is not an interest to the US; that is to say, there isn't anything in Ukraine that the US needs that is vital to either economic or national security. Ukraine is a national security concern for Russia. It doesn't matter what happens to Ukraine, it does not affect the US, but it would affect Russia. The Russians are checking American influence in their own region. NATO is how the US has influence in Europe. European states in NATO have no independent foreign policy. In fact, it is subservient to US foreign policy. The Russo-Ukrainian conflict, the sanctions, the war, the economic decline, that is the price of being in NATO following US foreign policy.
Of course, it does. When your enemy is arming your neighbor to be against you, that is more enough justification for any country, including the US. You act as if the US obeys international law and never staged a coup, or invaded a country. What is the US doing in Syria now? The US has up to 800 bases around the world, and you talk about Russian imperialism as if that is real. The US wants to dominate Europe via NATO. NATO is how the US exercises influence on Europe. This is power politics by Russia, it is not about conquering anything, but keeping US influence in check. You have no evidence to support your claims.
Right, like the right to stage a coup because the Russians offered a better economic deal that was far more lenient than the harsh IMF and EU deal that gave the Ukrainians much better economic support than what the EU could have provided. The Ukrainian leadership chose a better economic deal while fully aware of the tensions between NATO and Russia. They operated in good faith. The Ukrainian nationalist does not operate in good faith, because like a lot of toxic nationality, they are irrational, and don't make wise decisions. Ukraine was not going to be a sovereign country while being in the EU and NATO. Sovereignty and democracy or even prosperity is what Western Ukrainians wanted, they wanted to go with the EU, because they hated Russians, and NATO is arming nationalist who hate Russians and Russia. The Russians view that as an existential threat. Had the Ukrainians wisely became non-aligned, they would not be in this predicament today. The Russian tried economic sanctions, even an economic deal that was much better than the EU deal. For decades, since the after the dissolution of the USSR, Russia expressed security concerns with NATO expansion. The Ukrainians were lead to a destructive path by the US. The Russians simply wanted a neutral Ukraine, like the way Finland was neutral for decades after WWII, but no reasonable minds prevailed.
You did not read the article. The reason why the Ukrainian government did not sign the Association Agreement with the EU is because the loan terms were harsh, and the Russians simply offered a much better deal with very few strings attached. The EU offered $850 million in loans while the Russians offered $15 billion dollars in loans, and cheap gas. This is why Ukrainian leadership did not side with the EU. The IMF wanted 40% tariffs on natural gas, to cut government sending, and the whole 9 yards, including changing their own laws. Let me point out this awfully bad lie that Ukraine, as a sovereign country, would make a sovereign choice to join NATO and the EU; by joining NATO, you forfeit your own foreign policy for the US providing security. European foreign states in NATO and the EU do not have sovereignty. EU states are controlled by the EU, which has its office in Brussels. None of them have "sovereignty". Sovereignty and democracy are not the motivating factors in staging a proxy war in Ukraine, it is through NATO, which the US exercises influence over the European states, and that is why principally, the conflict with Russia was spearheaded by the US, not France, or Germany. The UK being a prime exception.
Crimea is dominated by ethnic Russians. When Ukrainian-Russians saw their man was kicked out of office, what Russian would support Ukrainian nationalist kicking out their leader, and moving in their own leader? Eastern Ukraine is Russian speaking, they have Russian family in Russia. They don't want their language to be abolished, either, like the Ukrainian government did by enacting a law that abolished the Russian language. The Donbass is mostly Russian people. Zelenskyy regime hates Russians but wants to claim land that ethnic Russians occupy, and made their home. Ukraine does not need Crimea and the objective to try to get it back is purely political based on nationalism.
Ukraine would have been just fine as a neutral state. But, because they want the freedom to choose as a sovereign country to subvert democracy, they choose to destroy their country. The Western Ukrainians, that is. The Russians are not in Ukraine because of Ukrainians per se, they are there because of the US who has no business being next door to Russia, arming, and training the Ukrainians under the pretense of NATO membership. Even today, the US continues to say Ukraine will still be part of NATO, which is egging on the Russians. The US wants no diplomacy with Russia. There is absolutely zero interest in any kind of compromise with Russia. The US wants its own way, their way, or the highway. No consideration for the security concerns of other countries, the US will get in trouble, and bring victims along with it. The war was preventable by the US, and the US is the principal reason why Russia acted preemptively.
Euromaidan had nothing to do with the president's domestic policy and had everything to do with foreign policy. The US wanted to isolate Ukraine from Russia, including steering Ukrainian big business away from Russia. The Russians provided an economic deal than the EU could give. The declared independent republics wasn't about whether Yanukovych was strengthening or weakening his own power. Even the news media doesn't claim your explanation.
- Euromaidan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan
It is comical propaganda that Ukraine had or has sovereignty. When Joe Biden tells you, if you want a lot of money, you run your government according to what he and what he represents deem fit such as firing Ukrainians in public office, is this really a sovereign nation? How about supporting a coup that subverted the democratic vote in that country? Ukraine is a political war. The EU and NATO wanted to bring the former Soviet states under a liberal umbrella by bringing them into the EU and NATO. All the while, the US was ignoring Russian security interests. The US has no interest in Ukraine. Whatever happens in Ukraine affects nothing in the US. American standard of living will not decrease because there is nothing vital in Ukraine for the US. The brings us further comical propaganda; the Ukrainian border is an American one, and if we don't stop the Russians in Ukraine, they will take over Europe, and invade Los Angeles, and New City. This is nonsensical, but this is what the mainstream news media by way of government agencies want the public to believe. Again, who has credibility here?
Is the writer of the article right of center? Aaron Maté works for the Grayzone, which according to Wikipedia is a far left-wing news website and blog. His employment history does not suggest any strong right leaning.
- Aaron Maté - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Mat%C3%A9
- The Grayzone - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone
They're reading propaganda. This propaganda has made democrats callous and inhumane. The complicity and support for Israel in Gaza, the support of provocation, and antagonism. The democrat has fallen and he does not know it.
I didn't believe the initial claim that Putin will order a hit on a political enemy that is imprisoned in an isolated, frozen, environment.
The US military is overstretched, both physically and politically. The US is said to have somewhere between 750 and 800 military bases in 80 countries. With defense pacts, quid pro quos, both bilateral, and multilateral, the US has many liabilities. Joe Biden apparently believes the US is very powerful and can take care of multiple conflicts. Possible war with Iran, their proxies, the Houthis, and the US obligation to protect Israel by treaty, and political influence. Obviously, in the war in Ukraine, the US seems committed to poking Russia with a stick. Then there is China, with the potential conflict over the South China Sea, and Taiwan. The Biden regime believes it can handle all these conflicts around the world, rejecting the concept of priority. Maybe he thinks the US had a two front war in WWII, and the US can do the same today, despite being a different economy from the 1940s. Another thing, is the US has expensive technology, but has no sustainability in a real war. The Pentagon lobbies for all kinds of futuristic combat programs and expensive toys, that it is a superficial military than people realize. Take the example of Russia and how quickly they were able to retool their economy and evolve their military to the situation on the ground, the Russians easily produce more capacity of supplies than the US and produces more than NATO collectively. Monetary aid to Ukraine does them no measurable good because the US industrial capacity is completely unprepared for a real war. The Russian weakness is distribution; logistics. The US has the most impressive logistics but no capacity. The ship building has been gutted. In a real war with a Great Power, even worse, a peer competitor, the US will face a shortage far sooner than its enemies. It is said somewhere, don't remember where, that a hot war with China would have the US run out of ammunition in a few weeks. This is despite having the highest military spending in absolute terms than any other country. This is because the US government, the Pentagon, is inefficient. There is a black hole of spending to goes somewhere that Americans don't know. They are government agencies that cannot be audited. Joe Biden wants to increase taxes for these rabbit holes.
Of course, he has no spine. He can't govern over communist flavored sentiment. This also proves that democracy does not work to improve society unless the voter agrees with it. Now we can see how lobbies control this man. I do not consider him a real leader.
He is fully aware Ukraine can't win. His advisors tell him, including general Milley.
Macron reiterated calls for a third way between the U.S. and China, saying Europe must show that “it’s never going to be a vassal for the United States.” https://www.politico.eu/article/emmanuel-macron-europe-china-competition-protectionism-geopolitics/
That is correct. Congress have their own discourse while they deal with the public differently. There is a lot of stuff that goes on that clearly does not represent the will of the American people.
Sanctions don't work. Sanctions have never succeeded in regime change. Sanctioned countries can circumvent the sanctions by going around them. In the case of China, China is a 17 trillion dollar economy with a proven consumer market. If sanctions didn't work on smaller economies, will it work for economic leviathans? Sanctions are a two-way street. Sanctions are a cost to the country being sanctioned and to the country imposing the sanctions. Trade controls on China are actually a sanction on US companies as well. In the EU, sanctions on Russia is a sanction on themselves. Now they have to pay for expensive, more complex energy structures., while a key component to stabilize that is natural gas.
Did the Inflation Reduction Act actually reduce inflation, or was it higher interest rates? Last time I looked, it was 3.5%.
Not all countries in the EU support Ukraine. It is not in their interest to support the conflict in Ukraine. If Russia was such a looming threat, they would have paid their fair share in NATO military funding. Barack Obama pointed this out, not just Trump. Obviously, they preferred to get rich, instead of spend money on the military. Viktor Orbán is the sanest leader in the EU because he tells it like it is. A Russian threat is greatly inflated with myths of a new USSR. Russians are not ideologically communist, and they have no interest in controlling other European people. They have been there and done that. The Soviets had to deal with uprising and insubordinate leaders when they controlled Eastern Europe. Uprisings in Romania and Hungary. Ukraine is a security matter for Russia. There is no imperial motivation for it. It was well established long before this conflict that NATO expansion into Ukraine would be a disaster. Angela Merkel and Sarkozy said this much including Bill Burns as Secretary of State, and ambassador. Bill Burns still works in the US government.
That is what the West publically says, to the last man. Lindsey Graham said to the effect that giving them money is a great thing because they will fight to the last man. I don't see how fighting to the last man is a rational choice, given they were much better options than choosing alignment with the EU and NATO. Then again, American foreign policy makes no sense, such as funding and supplying Israel. Israel and Gaza is not an American interest. Just like Ukraine, the US has no need to participate in aiding a country over a region like Gaza. These are purely liabilities for the US.