Amnesigenic @ Amnesigenic @lemmy.world

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Be less gullible

Peaceful protest has literally never accomplished anything without the credible threat of violence, you are delusional

Dead wrong, you are historically and politically illiterate

If you think any protest anywhere ever is about following rules then you have completely missed the point of protest

You're in a political forum not your grandma's house, the point isn't to make people feel warm and fuzzy it's to discuss politics

No, representative democracy works when the system is designed to actual require representatives to do that, to represent their constituents. The US does not do that.

If your representatives aren't in any way obligated to vote in accord with the wishes or best interests of the people they represent then it's definitely not any kind of democracy

There are exactly zero people "calling everyone nazis", this is not a real problem

A 1 to 1 vote to citizen ratio that is the actual determining factor in decision making, the electoral college alone completely destroys any argument for the US being a democracy just by existing, and we've had that bullshit running since day one

1. Incorrect, fixed definitions don't stay fixed forever, that doesn't mean they aren't fixed right now. Words mean things, if a word changes meaning in a generation or two or five it'll mean fuck all for you right here and now.
2. The US is not a democracy at all and never was. It was arguably at various points in time a representative republic, not a particularly good one but that's not part of the definition.
3. I don't care what you think, I know you're using the term loosely that's my point, fucking duh

Wrong

Just because they're polite doesn't mean they're not wrong, and if they can't handle being told so then your talking with them isn't going to get anything done anyway

Literally all communication depends on how you define the terms you use, that's the whole point of having fixed definitions for words, and the US absolutely does not fit any reasonable definition of a democracy

no u

The second one

The US has never been a democracy, we've never been a particularly equitable representative republic either and our government was designed this way on purpose

Because none of those other people want to. The only reason they even allow Bernie to do as much as he does is to placate progressive liberals, if they didn't folks might start figuring out that reform doesn't work.

If Bernie fucking Sanders is too far left for you then you're definitely part of the problem

If you don't have a position on genocide then you're a bad person, maybe not as bad as people who actively support genocide but that's a fantastically low bar to clear and you should still be ashamed