Some Mexican pharmacies are selling full bottles of Adderall. But it's actually meth.
Some Mexican pharmacies are selling full bottles of Adderall. But it's actually meth.
Do these pharmacies by chance serve fried chicken or offer commercial laundry services?
Isn't Adderall basically meth? Is there a difference in how they would affect ADHD symptoms at low dose?
Its similar but the additional methyl group makes it more potent.
Kinda like a morphine (Adderall) vs heroin (meth)
This is not true. The extra methyl group makes it cross the blood brain barrier faster. The extra potency is from the drug itself being different from dexampphetamine, the active ingredient in adderall, however it is important to note that at doses below 50 mg methamphetamine and 100mg adderall, effects are almost entirely the same, with the serotoninergic (is this a word ?) aspects of meth only coming from high doses.
Do not recommend either.
Did they mean methylphenidate?
That sounds like uncontrolled dosages of Desoxyn.
I mean....
Since Adderall is chemically meth, how is this news?
They’re not the same drug. They’re related compounds. Similar how both ethanol and methanol are alcohols (related), but methanol will make you blind.
Methamphetamine is a stronger compound compared to amphetamine and can keep you awake for days at a time.
Both useful and prescribed for adhd, Desoxyn is meth Adderall is amphetamine.
https://www.healthline.com/health/adhd/how-do-adderall-and-meth-methamphetamine-differ#differences
In this article, it's made clear how there is a legal meth medication for ADHD and the doctors note that that "They are very similar medications. Their chemical structure is almost the same".
Meth and Adderall are not always chemically identical, but their makeup and effects are very similar and their difference is largely in how much amphetamine is prescribed and how it's used and how poorly it is manufactured and regulated.
like methanol and ethanol, that's a good comparison.
Not only is this wrong, the prevalence of this weird comparison fuels more stigma and dismissal of people who already have to struggle to get Adderall without judgment from their own doctors and pharmacists, when it’s literally one of the only high percentage treatments for ADHD.
https://www.healthline.com/health/adhd/how-do-adderall-and-meth-methamphetamine-differ#differences
In this article, it's made clear how there is a legal meth medication for ADHD and the doctors note that that "They are very similar medications. Their chemical structure is almost the same".
Meth and Adderall are not always chemically identical, but their makeup and effects are very similar and their difference is largely in how much amphetamine is prescribed and how it's used and how poorly it is manufactured and regulated.
If accurate medical information causes you to stigmatize others, you'll have to reexamine your own beliefs after learning more.
Because that's not true
https://www.healthline.com/health/adhd/how-do-adderall-and-meth-methamphetamine-differ#differences
In this article, it's made clear how there is a legal meth medication for ADHD and the doctors note that that "They are very similar medications. Their chemical structure is almost the same".
Meth and Adderall are not always chemically identical, but their makeup and effects are very similar and their difference is largely in how much amphetamine is prescribed and how it's used and how poorly it is manufactured and regulated.
If accurate medical information causes you to stigmatize others, you'll have to reexamine your own beliefs after learning more.
Meth is an approved drug for the treatment of ADHD.
It’s schedule II, while marijuana is schedule I, it’s crazy.
Not to mention the pharmacological effects of methamphetamine are indistinguishable from Adderall when taken orally in similar doses
E: I was misremembering this study. It was measuring the physiological and behavioral effects of insufflated amphetamines, not oral. Here's a vice article with additional info from the doctor who conducted the study
This is objectively false.
Setting aside the issue of QA and how and in what conditions this methamphetamine is being produced, no, the pharmacological effects of methamphetamine are NOT just the same as Adderall (blend of 4 different amphetamine salts).
It's also not prescribed for ADHD, except in rare circumstances. It's mostly prescribed for conditions like narcolepsy, because it's significantly more psychoactive then amphetamine salts, and that's BEFORE you factor in issue of these being cartel produced counterfeit pressed meth pills vs production in an actual pharmaceutical laboratory with the accompanying conditions and controls.
I can vouch for this as someone who's tried equivalent doses of each, less methamphetamine is required to achieve the same effects but I couldn't tell the difference. Compared with the recreational forms you're also dealing with different salts combined in the prescription. This sentiment is also common.
I think you mean equivalent dose? Isn't meth like nearly 50% stronger?
Upvote for coming back to correct a mistake
A range of amphetamine compounds are approved for the treatment of ADHD.
Methamphetamine, what people generally talk about when they say meth, is not.
Desoxyn is an FDA approved brand-name methamphetamine that is prescribed to treat ADHD and obesity. It's not very common, and usually ADHD patients will be prescribed some other amphetamine, but meth is schedule II and it is used to treat ADHD in some cases.
https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2020-06/Methamphetamine-2020_0.pdf
From another comment in this thread, at least in the US, it looks like it actually is approved for treatment of ADHD. https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2013/005378s028lbl.pdf
It is, but it's very rare. It's mostly used for issues like narcolepsy, as it's significantly more stimulating then amphetamine salts.