2y ago

F.B.I. Faulted Agents for Shooting at a Fleeing Suspect and Killing a Family Dog

www.nytimes.com

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Cops sure do enjoy killing dogs, don't they?
- They’re jealous, dogs actually protect and serve
  
  Nah, if jealous they'd try it themselves. Nah, this is the guy who does a mediocre job, then thinks the people who actually do it well are just doing it to make him look bad.
- https://www.criminallegalnews.org/news/2018/jun/16/doj-police-shooting-family-dogs-has-become-epidemic/
  I believe the DOJ report is linked somewhere in that article, if not I'll dig it up if requested.
  Cops in this country kill so many dogs each year that a specialist at the Department of Justice’s (“DOJ”) community-oriented program services office says it has become an “epidemic.” The DOJ estimates that around 25 to 30 dogs are killed by cops every day, with some numbers as high as 10,000 per year. The totals could, in fact, be higher, since most police agencies do not formally track officer-involved shootings involving animals.
  
  Holy fuck! I knew it was bad but 10,000 a year?!
  
  10,000 dogs per year and yet we still don’t have a real-life John Wick bringing down the Police mafia. Damn.
- It seems to be a national past time when it comes to enforcers.
What is it with everyone thinking that running away means you should die?
- It's not about logic, it's about being forced to submit to authority under threat of death. Some people think that system makes them safer, because they don't believe it will ever be used against them.
- Not everyone. Just the trigger-happy, psycho bullies with badges think that.
- Both cops and military are taught you can shoot someone running away if you reasonably believe they will harm others.
  
  this is so far from the truth. stfu about shit you know nothing about. shooting at a fleeing 'suspect' or 'combatant' is a big no no.
  
  Downvoted for being right despite the people below not understanding hors de combat.
  Fleeing does not mean surrender. Being injured enough to not be able to fight, essentially unconscious is another. You can also shoot someone if you reasonably believe they're commiting perfidy. These are protected by the Geneva convention and war crimes themselves.
  https://lieber.westpoint.edu/down-not-always-out-hors-de-combat-close-fight/
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidy
  https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule47
- If you're running away to plan on killing or seriously harm more people, then yes lol.
  Also half the reason the law works is due to fear of injury or isolation. It's the underlying threat to every law and social norm for humanity.
  Edit: and let's not kid that isolation isn't just physical harm lol.
  
  K, but that's not what we are talking about here. These aren't just people that are out to hurt others. Nobody has a problem with police officers dealing people that are a danger because they're shooting at people.
-The agent shoot an innocent suspect
Judge: who cares lmao
-He killed the dog too
Judge: this is unacceptable, take their badge
- its weird because I thought shooting dogs was literally why people join police gangs like the fbi
The ATF must be absolutely seething that the FBI is riding roughshod over their jurisdiction, sniping dogs and shooting unarmed people in the back are two of their three core missions. If the FBI starts selling guns to cartels, it'll be a complete usurpation.
“ The other involved an agent in California who fatally shot a family dog that he said bit him during a “family dispute” while he was off duty; he got a five-day suspension.”
Wait, he killed his own dog? Psycho.

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