2y ago

Biden Skillfully Handled Xi Jinping’s U.S. Visit in Ways Trump Simply Never Could

www.thedailybeast.com

Had Donald Trump been the U.S. president hosting this week’s APEC meetings, I have no doubt that the headline from the event would have been unchanged. It would have been: “He’s a dictator.”

The only difference is it would be Xi Jinping who was saying it to describe Trump.

Other than that, though, a Trump-hosted APEC meeting would likely have been unrecognizably different from the successful and productive forum hosted by President Joe Biden.

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To be fair, a ham sandwich would've handled Xi's visit better than Trump too.
- #HamSandwich2024
  
  #YesWeHam
  
  IDK depends on how old it is.
  
  I thought we were ~~convicting~~ indicting ham sandwiches
Trump would have praised him and said he was a dictator too, and that's he's smart and then make some "joke" inferring that he wish he could do that too. Oh and that people respect him (Xi). Trump wishes he could get the respect from people that matter, but instead of the only people who respect him are degenerates. Like most fascists, the resentment consumes him.
- He has the respect of roughly (or over) half of voters in this country. Don't forget that.
  Whining about how he isn't liked when he's currently leading polls seems pretty hollow, don't you think?
  I don't like him, but it seems dangerous to make these characterizations when he clearly has a lot of support. Otherwise we will be in the situation again where no one can "believe" he won.
  He's winning. That's a problem. You may not like it, and I certainly don't, but we need to recognize the problem to solve for it. Dismissing half the voters in the United States as "degenerates" isn't the answer. They feed on that.
  
  This is really a stupid comment.
To be fair, skillfully is not a Trump skill
- It's a low bar. Knowing the current US president is beyond his level of coherence.
  
  More coherent than the last 🤷‍♂️
This is not going to be a popular opinion on here, but when it comes to Asia, Biden's foreign policy is almost indistinguishable from Trump's.
Basically: aggressive ratcheting of trade and tech restrictions on China; gum up the international trading framework (e.g. WTO dispute resolution process); try to woo China's neighbors but steadfastly ignore their requests for better trade access with the US; discourage Chinese scientists and students from coming to the US. All of these initiatives originated under Trump, and are being continued under Biden, with minor tweaks.
- After the Obama administration both parties have taken hardline stances on China. Their theft of intellectual property, ignoring international law, massive subsidies of industries that target foreign economies, human rights abuses, wolf warrior diplomacy etc. etc. had proven that democracy wasn’t going to take root even when they were uplifted economically.
  China has no friends in either party now and the reaction of the a potential Hillary Clinton administration in 2016 likely would have been the same.
  The US has to brutalize and strangle China’s economy to bring them to the table and force change. There is no need to provide incentives to other Asian powers as China’s actions against their neighbors are enough to put them in the USA’s sphere of influence.
- For different reasons though
Yeah, exactly. Next year, you'll have a choice between an actual president or a human train wreck.
And by "skillfully" they surely mean Joe calling Xi "a dictator" shortly after their meeting, while lots of press press was around.
- While it's not ideal, had he said no to the question, the media would have spun it as, "Biden refuses to call Xi a dictator".
  
  He could simply deflect and avoid the question, as anyone with half a brain would have done.
- Should Biden kowtow to Xi? He is a dictator and speaking truth matters.
  
  he chose his words well
  
  Except he's not a dictator any more than Roosevelt was.
- That's not even remotely close to the idiocy of Trump:
  From the top of what I immediately remember regarding Trump embarrassing both himself and the USA.
  Trump embarrassing himself during meeting with the president of Japan:
  https://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/06/politics/donald-trump-koi-pond-japan/index.html
  Trump and the magic orb:
  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/22/world/middleeast/trump-glowing-orb-saudi.html
  Trump bragging and then being collectively laughed at during UN speech:
  https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/watch-trumps-boast-draws-laughter-at-united-nations
  Trump and his idiotic handshakes.
  https://time.com/4797283/trump-handshakes-emmanuel-macron-justin-trudeau-neil-gorsuch/
  Trump soiling himself because he forgot to wear his diaper:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
  Biden calls Xi a dictator because he is.
  The difference is that Trump is a narcissistic moron, it's amazing how many people can't see that.
  
  Don't forget him walking out in front of Queen Elizabeth, leaving her to shuffle past the press behind him. He's a buffoon.
  
  Thanks for the compilation. The analogy I've been using for years is that trying to keep up with Trump's follies is like trying to read Lord of the Rings while listening to Game of Thrones on audio and watching Avengers Endgame while riding a rollercoaster in a hurricane.
- And if he said "well there are lots of different types of governments and we can all work together" or some non answer then the headlines would be "biden refuses to call him a dictator". It's a no win so the best course was to say it and smooth it over later because maybe it signals they can both be truthful.
  Lots of good came out of this meeting overall in my opinion.
- Good. Call it like he sees it. Fuck Xi and fuck his simps.
  
  yeah exactly. not sure why i'm getting downvoted to hell for just stating this. it wasn't by mistake, he told it to the press by choice.
Wait, did he suck his honey dick or not?
The ice may be clear and thin, but it sure is wide.
Biden did not "skillfully handle" this at all. He foolishly damaged relations with China even further by calling Xi a dictator after going to the trouble of planning this summit.
If you cowards would vote for the Green party or any other party this wouldn't be a problem. Instead, you support the Democrats who don't even try to repair the damage the Republicans do. They both get rich from it together.
- Third party votes in a First Past the Post voting system are a protest at best and counter-productive at worst.
  
  Your plan is to keep voting for people who don't support ranked choice voting.
  My plan is to vote for people who support ranked choice voting.
- Greens support Putin, who is genociding queer Russians. No thanks.
  
  In what way does the Green party US support Putin?
- If you cowards would vote for the Green party
  
  If Jill Stein was working for Putin why would she publicly show herself sitting at the same table?
- You do that every time you vote Democrat or Republican
- Lol I haven't laughed so hard all day! Thank you, I needed that.
  
  I laughed way harder at the title of this post

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