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House censures only Palestinian member over call for Palestinian freedom

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This is the country that thinks it is qualified to police other countries on human rights and freedom of speech 🤡 what a clown country
Progressives need to leave this dog shit party.
- What we need to do is get rid of FPTP, because so long as that's how the system works breaking away will only guarantee that the fascists win permanently.
  
  Genocide is happening under the non-fascist party. What's the fucking point?
- They're there to sheepdog the voters into believing progressive candidates a valued part of the democratic party despite the fact that more than most of the good things progressives have accomplished are entirely outside of the chambers of congress. The democrats refuse to work with progressives unless they are forced too, like that time the progressives asked Pelosi to consider stock trading bans and she denied them until it was clear that was horrible PR, then decided to come around to vocally supporting it later, once the political will to pass the bill was dying down. Progressives are there for show.
  
  Yeah, Bernie is demonstrating this by refusing to endorse a ceasefire.
- They already did. Though they absolutely 100% need to stop voting for that dogshit party as well.
  
  Ah yes, insurrectionist part II electric boogaloo.
  The choices on the table are dogshit or arsonic, but if you don’t choose you're still going to have to eat one of them.
  In order to avoid eating either, we should probably focus on getting the one off the table that will fucking kill you.
This is some bullshit. I don't expect any better from Rs, but 22 Ds?
- AIPAC has heavy stakes in the Democratic Party. They run primary challenges and fund conservatives against anyone who expresses anything close to Palestinian sympathy. (Summer Lee is a good recent/current example.)
  Those 22 Ds likely exist at the behest of AIPAC money.
- If your response to seeing Jewish antizionism is to downvote congrats you're an antisemitic piece of shit.
  
  Death to israel is an anti semitic slogan. End the war and fuck the israel government but death to a nation of people is just crazy
Bunch of genocidal racist fanatics.
No, she was censured for seemingly calling for the end of Israel. That is not the same as Palestinian freedom.
- She only called for the end of the apartheid state that systematically tortures the Palestinians under its brutal occupation. She called for equal rights for all Palestinian people so that they are no longer second class citizens.
  It was wrong when America, Britain, South Africa, and countless other colonialist countries did it in the past, and it is wrong for Israel to do it now. Apartheid is a disgusting system that brutalizes millions of innocent civilians. The average age in Gaza is like 19 years old. They are mostly children.
  Do you condemn Israel for the murder of over 4000 children?
  
  This has nothing to do with me. I'm just stating a fact. She was censured for the river to the sea comment, not for calling to end the apartheid state.
- Yeah this headline lacks nuance imo
NO, she was censured because she posted a video using a slogan popular with anti semitics, let's get that right. I understand she's trying to appeal to her people but you can't just come out and support hatred from the other side.
- You're being antisemitic by equating anti-zionism with antisemitism.
  -someone who's Jewish side of the family was directly affected by the holocaust
  
  Oh fuck off with that argument. The slogan is about slaughtering Jews of Israel to push them to the sea. Someone using a slogan that is bigoted is just bigoted. Fuck your dissemble attempts.
- Palestine will be free from the river to the sea
  
  You know the traditional Palestinian border, but sure anti semitic.....
  
  Because “Death to Israel” doesn’t rhyme.
- “On May 3, 2022 the ADL website referred to the slogan as, ‘a slogan commonly featured in pro-Palestinian campaigns and chanted at demonstrations.'” he writes. “Nowhere in the 2022 description is there a mention of antisemitism…On October 26, 2023, the position on the website was changed to include, ‘is an antisemitic slogan’.”
  Note the date. The slogan wasn't considered antisemitic before October. Don't fall for their bs. Pro-palestine does not mean antisemitic regardless of what these people want you to think.
  
  Don't fall... For the Antidefamation Leagues bullshit regarding what qualifies as hate speech?
  They're the defacto people who describe it in America lol.
- Yes and no. If a terrorist group co-opts and reinterprets my national slogan, whose slogan is it? Which interpretation is right? Which interpretation was she using?
  
  It's pretty much always meant kill all the jews there. Also once a slogan or symbol gets corrupted it's not really usable anymore, see the swastika.

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