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Former Starfield dev says all decisions on Bethesda RPGs "run through" Todd Howard: "He would hate, hate, hate me for saying that"

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I've read similar things about the development of Morrowind, about creative decisions needing to get past Todd, in this excellent article about its development.
Here are some quotes from Michael Kirkbride:
The game was originally set in the Summerset Isles. And then we got bored and decided, “Man, this is really boring. How about we put it in a volcano with like giant bugs everywhere?” And people were like, “What?” So Todd Howard — the easiest way to get anything past Todd, at that time, was you basically just had to say “Star Wars.” Which was true for me and anybody then. So I was like, “The game should be like Dark Crystal meets Star Wars.” And he was immediately hooked. I got all the bug creatures I ever needed, we moved it from Summerset Isles to this weird dark-elf place on the map, and we just went from there.
I used to have this thing with Todd, because he was one of the ones that’s like, “Let’s not make it too weird.” So I’d bamboozle him. There was a period where I would actually draw two different versions of a monster — the one that was weird and that I wanted to be in the game, and then one that was fucking crazy. And so I’d go to Todd, and I’m like, “OK, I think I’ve got the mid-level creature set.” And I’d show him a picture. He’d be like, “Nah, dude, that’s crazy.” Then I’d go back to my office and I would act like I was drawing something new, and I’d just come back with the original drawing of what I really wanted to be in there. Like, “Hey, is this what you were thinking?” And he’d be all, “Oh, yeah, that’s much better. That’s great.”
I can definitely believe his influence has become immense following the studio's success - though it definitely feels like he needs to hand the reins over to somebody else.
- That tactic for his crazy monster designs is a classic psychological trick, but I can't remember what it's called. It's a thing where you're more likely to get someone's help by first asking for more help than you want/need, and then when rejected, you can scale it back, and they'll more likely concede
  
  The anchoring effect
- Kirkbride got such a wild and interesting take on fantasy, it's a shame his influence on elder scrolls have diminished with time.
  
  The loss of Ken Rolston and Kirkbride and the rise of Emil Pagliarulo is what fucked the elder scrolls writing.
  You shouldn't hand your big epic fantasy world to a guy who couldn't give a fuck about the lore or stepping on the toes of other writers.
- Honestly I don’t think anyone should have that kind of power over a AAA game these days.
  
  I disagree, AAA especially would benefit fromsomeone with that kind of power at the helm. Most AAA games feel like committee games, no clear vision besides appealing to the lowest denominator. The reason Kojima games are so praised and polarizing is because he has this kind of power to make sure his vision gets realized.
  If everything has to go through Todd and the end result is Starfield then that just means Todd isn't suited to have that much power.
  
  It works pretty well for Miyamoto and Kojima.
- That just seems too hilarious to be true, specially the first part. Specially given that a lot of the lore preceded Morrowind and already created the setting for the place it would be set in: https://images.uesp.net/thumb/3/39/DF-map-Tamriel.jpg/400px-DF-map-Tamriel.jpg
- Wasn’t there a report where some of the devs called him a seagull because he would just fly by whatever you were working on and shit all over it? Maybe I’m misremembering who that’s attributed to though, there are lots of terrible people in games.
- It's almost as if people get old and become less efficient at everything, regardless of where they started from.
  
  The quote above is from Morrowind, so I'm curious to know when you think he lost his mojo. Like, Daggerfall? I mean, I could agree with that, but it seems like a hot take.
He's the game director, it makes sense that things would go through him.
- He’s the game director, it makes sense that things would go through him.
  Things: yes. All things: No. That's micromanagement.
  
  But we are talking about design decisions here, it would be micromanagement if he was getting in the middle of how things are done, not the end result.
The dev is far nicer to Todd than the title implies.
- Yeah. He even says Todd didn't like to be in this position, and that's why he would hate him saying that. But clickbait's gonna clickbait.
Yes that's probably what allowed games like Skyrim to be so good instead of feeling like they were designed by a corporate committee.
- People bitch about him but there's a reason his games are so popular.
  
  Brand image?
- Yeah, I'm not mad at this. Games should have a leader calling the shots. I think it's why Kojima's games are always so great.
I am for one SHOCKED that an executive doesn't let developer do whatever the fuck they want. SHOCKED!
- Especially for games that took like 10 years to make and cost like a billion dollars lol.
16 times the decisions!
- LOL! Fuck man, almost lost my shit reading this and woke my fiance. 😂
They never should have let the Barbarian lead the party.
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Shoulda told him to build a new Star Wars game engine…
Okay so I’m gonna skip The Elder Scrolls VI - aisomnoim

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