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When Lord of the Flies happened in real life, everyone was nice to each and they survived

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/may/09/the-real-lord-of-the-flies-what-happened-when-six-boys-were-shipwrecked-for-15-months

That's amazing. They continuously maintained a fire, set up a farm of chickens and grown produce, and even healed another kids leg.
What a great read...thanks for sharing the link.
- Glad i had the chance to share it !
  The authors book Human Kind (Rutger Bregman) argues that we have developed a pessimistic view of ourselves - and the vast majority of humans are basically decent people.
  It’s got a lot of similar stories, where he revisits historical events and science experiments that have been used to paint humans as feral animals - and manages to debunk them, or at least expose the fragility of that argument.
  He suggests that Survival of the Fittest is also a flawed concept - and that humans have succeeded because of superior collaboration and cooperation.
  Review (and better synopsis) here - but it’s a heart warming read.
  https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/may/12/humankind-a-hopeful-history-by-rutger-bregman-review
Sample size too small
- it has the advantage of not being a work of fiction.
- Repeatedly history has shown that in dire circumstances, we help each other. Across time and cultures, in times of need, people get less selfish. When a natural disaster hits, or when a terrorist attack happens, people open their doors and pull out the spare mattresses and share food and clothing and volunteer to help and start patrolling the streets, even risking their own lives while doing so.
  It's a well studied effect, and when you think about it for more than 5 seconds, we are a social animal first and foremost so of course "reverting back to out instincts" means building communities and helping others. Civilization makes us more selfish, not the other way around.
  Reality makes for terrible fiction though because most fiction is written through the lens of character conflict (especially in Hollywood) and "people help each other but some people die anyway from lack of resources or zombie attacke" is boring, so we have been "taught" to expect the opposite of what actually happens when shit hits the fan (actually I'd love a TV show to delve into that, like TLoU kinda did, but Hollywood is notoriously terrible at writing socio-cultural commentary).
This article sucked me in. What a great read
- Look up his book ! Lots more of same. See my other reply
  https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/may/12/humankind-a-hopeful-history-by-rutger-bregman-review
This was great. Thanks for the article
I came to the comments hoping someone would say this.
Then there was the time they tried doing a reality show with just kids, and they shut it down in a day cause it became Lord of the flies and the kids turned into little psychos
- Kid Nation did a full season.
Damn you, Mr Taniela Uhila
There was only one obstacle. None of them owned a boat, so they decided to “borrow” one from Mr Taniela Uhila, a fisherman they all disliked.
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But this wasn’t the end of the boys’ little adventure, because, when they arrived back in Nuku‘alofa police boarded Peter’s boat, arrested the boys and threw them in jail. Mr Taniela Uhila, whose sailing boat the boys had “borrowed” 15 months earlier, was still furious, and he’d decided to press charges.

Very important detail, Lord of The Flies only happens with British Children.

Did you their accent originated from rats?
- No I did their not
Explicitly, in fact. That’s the whole deal with the Naval officer at the end.

Quickly! Seize the conch while everyone else is confused!

Lit.

Lord of the Flies says a lot about ~~how intensely shitty rich boarding school kids become sociopaths~~ society.

This book left such a big impression on me. Amazing pacing towards the end, I really couldn't put it down.

Brilliant.

Just the door to the English Lit room.
Must not be an American school.

Lol

- Here's the thing. A response like this on reddit wouldn't have surprised me. But imagine what would happen if folks on the internet re-engaged the public filter of "ya know, I don't really need to respond to this." How much more pleasant life might be if everyone considered that from time to time.
  inb4 something something irony, something something hypocrite
- fart noise
- lol
- Shut it ya nerd
This

Piggy got rocked

I never read this anyone wanna explain?

The setting of the book is ww2, children are evacuated via planes, but the planes are shot down, and only the children survive on island without any parents left. And the story begins around here. This is what the meme is referencing.
- wow so Lord of the Flies completely stole that plot-line from Yellowjackets?
  authors can't write anything original anymore smh smh
A class of schoolboys get marooned on an island (can't remember how; plane crash?). They initially try to have a civilized society, but everything devolves terribly. They resort to factions and degrees of savagery (violence) by the end of the book when they ultimately get rescued. I think the people who find them are shocked by what they've become.
The lord of the flies is a rotting pig's head that one of the boys interprets as such due to a medical condition (epilepsy, maybe?) There's a ton more to be said about it, but I haven't read it in many years. The gist of the joke is that by locking the students in, they will be made to experience devolution first-hand over time.
And hey, because the word came up, new-wave / post-punk band Devo are playing their farewell tour. Tickets were higher than I can justify (I've never been a fan per se and would be going just to see a cultural icon), but if you're into them, go Devolve and have a fun time.
Oh, ETA: they initially formed their society by one boy blowing into a conch shell to draw others together. I missed the conch in the final frame.