2y ago

Armed police respond to 'serious incident' on Auckland's Quay Street

www.rnz.co.nz

Stay safe, everyone.

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Oh jeez not another one :(
Stay safe as best you can, everyone, and don't post police radio information.
Quick summary of where things are at:
a shooter brought a pump action shotgun to a building site and started shooting at workers
two people plus the shooter are dead
three people seriously injured, three moderately injured
one responding police officer injured
does not appear to be politically or ideologically motivated
shooter was recently sentenced to home detention on domestic violence charges (thanks @SamC@lemmy.nz).
More from police press conference:
weapon not illegal type, but offender didn't have firearms licence. Unclear how he got weapon, not previously known to have weapon
was on home detention but had exemption to work at the site
indications that motivation was related to the work site
isolated, no wider risk, no reason for others to be worried about safety
no concerns regarding FIFA event safety
- Gunman was on home detention for domestic violence: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300931632/auckland-cbd-shooter-was-on-home-detention-for-domestic-violence-charges
  
  Maybe not the place to start a discussion on domestic violence, but it's correlated with so many outcomes we don't want as a society that getting people professional help at the first sign of trouble seems like an obvious starting point.
  Therapy, anger management, drug or alcohol dependance treatment, etc. I'm not sure that we have much support for any of these at the moment.
I hope it's a crazy guy and not a targeted terrorist attack.
- If anything good can come out of tragedy like this, maybe it can be better mental health awareness/action.
- Not sure it matters that much at this point.... multiple people dead
  Edit: that said, it does seem like it was a crazy guy
  
  Any source on multiple dead? I've only heard 6 injured, 3 of which seriously. And maybe the gunman is dead?
- It was a really pissed off guy with anger issues.
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300931632/auckland-cbd-shooter-was-on-home-detention-for-domestic-violence-charges
https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/300931378/live-people-understood-to-have-been-killed-in-auckland-cbd-shooting
- That is a really unfortunate url 🤔
- It is understood a 24-year-old man working at Commercial Bay was the shooter, taking a shotgun into his workplace, Newshub reports.
A cultural report prepared for the sentencing said Reid had a “systemic depravation” in his background, a disconnection from his culture, a history of family instability and hardship and have been exposed to domestic violence and physical abuse as a young person.
He ran away from home at an early age. The report writer said there may also be some mental health issues.
I guess we should have seen it coming.
- Who would have thought that poverty causes crime.
- Is this actually a quote from one of the news stories? Just wondering if so, as it seems completely believable and I would not be the slightest bit surprised if it was true
  Edit just read story linked below, and it is a quote from that
  You're absolutely right, we should have seen it coming. More precisely the judge responsible for sentencing him should have seen it coming. That is what he is paid for
  
  So you think punishing this abused kid earlier and more severely would have prevented him from committing crimes?
  
  I recommend a book called "Noise: A flaw in human judgement".
  It looks into variation in professional judgement, they talk about how in any professional judgement, people are all over the place. It's a good read but does get a bit stats-y at points. I don't think you need to understand the maths to get value from the book though.
  It spends a lot of time talking about US judges, and they do talk specifically about judges gauging flight risk of people being granted bail. They get it right like 55% of the time, and the author's computer models do better at like 60%. It's just really hard to judge. I would guess if every person in their circumstances was not granted bail, you'd need a lot more jail space.
Really horrible thing to happen. I hope we can find ways to stop this sort of thing happening again. Aroha to the families affected.
At times like this I'm very glad we have the police that we do. Compared to places like Aus and the States I mean.
They get a lot of criticism (much of which is probably justified), but when the shit really hits the fan, they're reliable and in there doing the really tough stuff.

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